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Old 01-01-2009, 10:35 PM   #1
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Home building a setup like the Martin Turbo Systems?

If I can get the 305 up and running, I'm thinking of building a smaller turbo setup for the engine.
I have been looking at a kit manufactured by Martin Turbo Systems, which was a knockoff of a ACCEL kit.


Thats the intake design.
both kits had a sort of valve that would block off the turbo while it was spooling, to help reduce lag. If I do this kit myself, I dobut I will use this, to make it less complicated.
From what I can tell, the Martin kit has a single plane.
So heres what I'm thinking.
Take a mass produced intake manifold such as this Edelbrock Torker II

and put a port on one side, like the Martin setup, and have the turbo blow in under the turbocharger. I believe it is called a 'suck through' setup and the carburetor is not pressurized.
From what I can see on the Martin kit, the turbo sucks in mixed air from the intake, and compresses it, and puts it back into the manifold.
I may do this, as it seems it would help with the mixture.
I will be running a blow off valve and wastegate with any other turbocharged setup.
Do you guys think this would work? I'm not going for huge numbers, just trying to get a boost out of the 305.
I will be using the 305 as its what I have on hand.

I'm going to see what I can come up with.
From what I can see,
The mixed fuel comes into the intake, it is drawn into the turbocharger, then compressed, and then put back into the intake. I think the engine wil draw it in....
The turbo's intake is coming out of the manifold, not out of the aircleaner, so there will be a mixture of gas and air going into the turbo...

Not really sure, thats why I posted up here.
I don't really want to purchase a older Martin system because I don't think they were made for very long, not due to design flaw but a management flaw in the company...
I will be running a wideband O2 probably, to keep tabs on the fuel mixture.
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Re: Home building a setup like the Martin Turbo Systems?

There's no reason it shouldn't work, it would be very easy to adapt a torker 2 type intake, using carb spacer for the carb to turbo take off. If you were to eliminate the turbo bypass, there's no reason you'd even have to mount the carb over the intake, you could mount it elsewhere and have a better elbow design feeding the intake. But it might not be too difficult to include a bypass valve arrangement, using a butchered holley base plate. I'm not sure how important it is to drivability, would be interested to know if the similar arrangement of the turbo trans am (2nd gen) used one.
Just make sure the turbocharger is set up to have fuel running through it, I'm not sure what that involves.

I want to see someone do this!
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Re: Home building a setup like the Martin Turbo Systems?

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I have been looking at a kit manufactured by Martin Turbo Systems, which was a knockoff of a ACCEL kit.
Do you have pic's of the ACCEL kit.
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Re: Home building a setup like the Martin Turbo Systems?

I'd reccomend doing some research on theturboforums. A blow-though system is considerably better/more efficient than a draw-through.
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Re: Home building a setup like the Martin Turbo Systems?

if you put pressure into the manifold how does it know to only blow into the cylinders and not up into the carb? it doesn't. pressure will seek the weakest point for release and you will need something to allow the gas in, while not impeding the flow and at the same time not let the pressure out.
that will be the trick.
and i like the dual systems, one moving less pressure until the larger unit kicks in. that eliminates lag.
you can just but a complete system off ebay for 1200 or so.
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