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Old 10-25-2009, 02:22 PM   #351
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Re: Twin Turbo 400 Buildup- '89 Iroc-Z

Good Luck!!!

how come you also replace the front wheels?? are those lighter?

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Old 10-25-2009, 08:27 PM   #352
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Front wheels are GTO spare wheels with M&H racemaster front runners. They are 17" to clear my C5 brakes which i dont have on the car yet

They are VERY light compared to my stock C6 wheels...and I think lighter than the summer star 15" wheels i had last year

Check out the runs: 10.37 at 134 was my best

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Old 10-30-2009, 05:20 PM   #353
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Re: Twin Turbo 400 Buildup- '89 Iroc-Z

Well did some more tuning and now have boost controller set to 12 psi. Going to bump it again to get 13 and call it a day. That should put me at 800-825 hp on motor. Car feels very strong but runnin abit richer than i want. Going to lean it down a touch more and start desensitizing the knock sensor, as it pulls out 4 deg no matter what timing i have in there.
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Old 10-30-2009, 05:45 PM   #354
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Re: Twin Turbo 400 Buildup- '89 Iroc-Z

Dude that looks TOUGH with the turbo's showing. I think it would look kinda goofy with two bubbles the the front to cover them. As a bunch of people have said, leave em showin!
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Old 11-09-2009, 10:53 PM   #355
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Re: Twin Turbo 400 Buildup- '89 Iroc-Z

What did you do with the pressure sensor(evap system) and charcoal canister on the LS1 tank? Also I'm needing the tube and filler neck for the LS1 tank any suggestions?
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Old 11-10-2009, 12:01 AM   #356
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What did you do with the pressure sensor(evap system) and charcoal canister on the LS1 tank? Also I'm needing the tube and filler neck for the LS1 tank any suggestions?
left the charcoal canister on the tank. Ditched all of my old evap system. Left the stock LS1 canister vented to air. I used a factory 4th gen rubber hose and metal filler neck, and its just laying in the opening of the gas cap. Works fine for me. Just a hint of gas smell if you leave it parked after long ride but seems to be doing its job, car runs abit rich at times so i smell gas regardless.


For those following that havent seen my latest outing to the track, the car went 10.07 at 137.7 on 12 psi, 10.06 at 139.2 on about 13psi (12.9 on datalogs) and 10.02 at 140.3 on about 14psi (13.8 on datalogs). Pump gas, 93 oct, no meth injection and ok 1.56-1.60 60 foots

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Old 11-19-2009, 03:50 PM   #357
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Pics from PRP 11/14/09

Car has been 9.73 at 142 on a higher boost attempt but didnt work out like i expected. I was guessing it would have done 9.5's at 145ish oh well. 9.86 at 141 is best on 14psi pump gas
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Old 11-19-2009, 03:55 PM   #358
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Re: Twin Turbo 400 Buildup- '89 Iroc-Z

Damn Orr, congrats on the 9's. Awesome DIY build. You're sticking with the $59 for this right?
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Old 11-19-2009, 05:11 PM   #359
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Dude, that is haulin' the mail!

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you know its got more in it. Awesome!
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Old 11-19-2009, 05:13 PM   #360
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I'm gonna use the $59 as long as i can until i feel necessary to change over to sequential... I think this system is more than fine for 1000hp. Seems to be good for my estimate 800-850 so far and I do plan to hit 1000 crank hp with it someday. If I go for more then I may go to a whole different turbo setup and management anyway to ensure best distribution of air and fuel to all cylinders. Right now I only monitor 1 bank and have not been able to check both sides for air fuel or individual cylinders like I really wanted to.
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Old 11-19-2009, 07:00 PM   #361
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"I do plan to hit 1000 crank hp with it someday."

Looks like you are going to give the Dart SHP block a real workout and see how good Carl's work is.
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Re: Twin Turbo 400 Buildup- '89 Iroc-Z

Just awesome man.. and still on a stock ECM and a stock 10 bolt LOL.

Did that intercooler fit up front by just unbolting the crash bar or did you have to cut off the ends of the frame rails? Did you have to trim any of the nose skin? I've got a guy dropping off an ATI FMIC tomorrow morning that I'm might buy it if looks like it will fit mine.

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Just awesome man.. and still on a stock ECM and a stock 10 bolt LOL.

Did that intercooler fit up front by just unbolting the crash bar or did you have to cut off the ends of the frame rails? Did you have to trim any of the nose skin? I've got a guy dropping off an ATI FMIC tomorrow morning that I'm might buy it if looks like it will fit mine.

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It fits fine with room to spare under the nose skin. I just cut the crash bar off between the frame rails and welded mounting tabs for the cooler. There are pics somewhere in this thread
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"I do plan to hit 1000 crank hp with it someday."

Looks like you are going to give the Dart SHP block a real workout and see how good Carl's work is.
Yeah, he did do a great job with the machining so i'm confident the block is strong. As long as i keep the tune safe it should handle that power just fine as i'm not really spinning this motor high at all. I figured I've been close to 900 crank already so only a few more psi away from being called 1000hp. Need to get on a dyno and start tuning it. Hope to discover how much psi 93 octane can handle with no meth. I think it can do 16 just fine as its seen 15.5 by accident with no signs of problems that I can tell.
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It fits fine with room to spare under the nose skin. I just cut the crash bar off between the frame rails and welded mounting tabs for the cooler. There are pics somewhere in this thread

Do you fell that cutting it affected the chassie some?
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The more I look at the turbo's hanging out of the hood the more I like it.

It looks mean as hell... I'm thinking clean up the edges and paint it... leave the turbo's

hang'n out .. I like it
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Do you fell that cutting it affected the chassie some?
It may have made the front noise twist abit more as I cut the top of the rad support off too. WHen I did that I saw the left and ride sides no longer match up. I did put a small piece of metal to brace and realign that top rad support but not sure how much it actually helps.

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It looks mean as hell... I'm thinking clean up the edges and paint it...
Thanks, thats what i'm thinking. Gonna clean up the cuts and try to form it closer to the shape of the turbo as i can and leave it at that for now
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man the car looks great!!! nice work.
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