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Old 10-28-2009, 02:40 PM   #1
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Turbo programer?

Ok well ive decided to look into the turbo set up and my question is do u need some sort of programer deal to run the turbo. im gunna run a demon 750 blow through carb with a hat and a bov. do i need anything else? i know i need an intercooler and piping and the ste up is gunna be a single mount front. let mne know what im missing thanks
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Re: Turbo programer?

Thanks for the links. they did answer a few questions i had but yet im still wonderin on the programmer part. and that second on raied the question of the injector. do i need an injector or will i be ok with a better fuel pump and the 750 cfm blow through? thanks
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It depends on how much boost your looking to run. A quality fuel pump (mechanical) will compensate for up to 15-psi, and while others push even more with it, I would seriously consider going with an electric pump w/afpr, thereafter....
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Re: Turbo programer?

well its a stock cast motor which ive been told not to run more then 7 psi. i was looking at running a snow water meth kit wich will let me run about 10 psi. let me know if u think those numbers are right. i dont want to run any more cause that would require doing forged internals
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well its a stock cast motor which ive been told not to run more then 7 psi. i was looking at running a snow water meth kit wich will let me run about 10 psi. let me know if u think those numbers are right. i dont want to run any more cause that would require doing forged internals....
You'll be absolutely fine up until 15-psi, and that is w/out methanol, so long as you keep detonation in check. Just monitor your AFR when you tune (you'll get so used to it, it will soon become like second nature when your just driving around town). Just so you know, not one Grand National or TTA (not one) came with forged parts, they were all cast, with a factory preset of up to 15-psi of boost (and that was back then). With today's technology used to monitor your fuel ratio, air temps, and EGT's, you should have absolutely no problems whatsoever, except for blown head gaskets, and worn out tires, of course....
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wow really ya think i can run 15 psi? ill prolly still run methonal injection just to make sure. and as far as afr i should be able to monitor that with a guage right? also what kind of power would i be llokin at out of a 355 with a .515 .515 lift cam 1 5/8 inch primary headers and prolly a edelbroke performer cam with 600 cfm edelbrock carb? thats the set up that i have right now to go into my camaro this winter and this is the motor id like to turbo if i do
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wow really ya think i can run 15 psi? ill prolly still run methonal injection just to make sure. and as far as afr i should be able to monitor that with a guage right? also what kind of power would i be llokin at out of a 355 with a .515 .515 lift cam 1 5/8 inch primary headers and prolly a edelbroke performer cam with 600 cfm edelbrock carb? thats the set up that i have right now to go into my camaro this winter and this is the motor id like to turbo if i do....
.... should have added that you want to keep compression at around the 8:5-9:0 range if your not going to run methanol, while trying to push for 15-psi on a very good tune. Yes, they've made some very good technological advancements when it comes to dialing in a carb's tune @ idle, part throttle, and WOT, under boost. Its hard to say how much power you'll be making with that setup naturally aspirated w/out knowing a few other details, I would need to know the cam's full specs, as well as cylinder head information, to give you an estimate.
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Re: Turbo programer?

The camshaft is a lunati bracket master 2. it has 246 246 duration and an operating range of 2500 to 6500. is that to high? heres the link
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/LUN-00012LK/
and the heads are gm 882s. the heads have new valves and springs to hold the cam and the heads themselves have les then 10k miles.

also if u had a sugestion for a good set of heads for a turbo set up and if this cam would work with it
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EDL-2204/
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Re: Turbo programer?

The 882 heads are around 76cc chambers. With a flat top piston that would put in the 8.5 - 9.0 compression range. It depends on the valve relief size cut into the piston.
I would run a smaller cam. That cam is not the right cam for your intake and exhaust.
You would be better with something in the 22X* duration range both with and without the turbo.
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well would that second cam work? its not a 22x duration but its a 234 238
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Re: Turbo programer?

also i dont have the intake ye so i could change that. is there anyone that would be better. and as far as lift how much should i use with my turbo
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Re: Turbo programer?

Yeah, The EDL-2204 would work or the one listed below. The Summit one is a cheap one, but would make plenty of HP with turbo boost. How much HP are you trying to make? What RPM range?

Summit Racing SUM-1104 - Summit Racing® Camshafts

EDIT: I just realized you are listing roller cams. Don't use what I posted above. You need as much lift as possible depending on if the heads are ported. The 882s don't flow well so .500" would be the minimum.
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Re: Turbo programer?

well i dont need a roller cam it just had the best balance of lift and duration. not really looking forward to the insain price of the lifters but i got to do what i got to do. anywayswhat heads would u suggest me switching to?
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