Standing Mile Platform Suggestion - Third Generation F-Body Message Boards

wilson34 · 11-02-2009, 10:30 PM

What would be a better platform for the standing mile: 91 up firebird or camaro?

I know a "stock" body firebird reached 300mph, but could a camaro with adequate power reach around 250mph safely with neccessary aero mods?

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ellocojorge · 11-02-2009, 11:08 PM

this is just opinion, but i would think head light covers would be good, i think that are might act like mini parachutes and raise the front end or pop the hood

mexicanknight · 11-02-2009, 11:50 PM

i would go with the bird

Zdaddy · 11-06-2009, 08:44 AM

I run a standing mile car and the numbers you are talking are "salt flat" numbers. I don't run covers over my head lights. Both car have their pros and cons on aerodynamics and terminal velocity. Most F-body vehicles with power adders or big block conversions will run 195-225mph in the standing mile.

Good luck with your build!

wilson34 · 11-06-2009, 10:33 AM

Thanks zdaddy, I know they were salt flat numbers I was just trying to find out if the camaro could be a high speed platform because I can't get over the looks of the bird. I have a corvette right now and figure it would be way cheaper to run the mile in a third gen.

Where did you get your front lip also and how much work did it take to get it to fit up perfect?
Also, my setup will most likely end up being a lsx block with twin tc70s turbos running a tr6060 tranny. This is just a paper build as of now and won't be started until funds fall into place.

killa66cam · 11-06-2009, 10:45 AM

Zdaddy - That car looks freakin sick...I love it!!!

Cam

Zdaddy · 11-06-2009, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by wilson34

Thanks zdaddy, I know they were salt flat numbers I was just trying to find out if the camaro could be a high speed platform because I can't get over the looks of the bird. I have a corvette right now and figure it would be way cheaper to run the mile in a third gen.

Where did you get your front lip also and how much work did it take to get it to fit up perfect?
Also, my setup will most likely end up being a lsx block with twin tc70s turbos running a tr6060 tranny. This is just a paper build as of now and won't be started until funds fall into place.

Custom fabbed in my shop. It's not that hard to make...just time consuming with a lots of fit checks. It was very needed when I felt the front begin to lift over 175mph. Top speed so far, 208 mph, hoping for another 10-15 mph in the spring. It takes 100+ RWHP for another 10 mph over 200 mph. Terminal Velocity is a bitch! When you start the build feel free to contact me for any build help.

paul_huryk · 11-07-2009, 07:14 PM

It's going to be a test of power, aerodynamics, weight, and transmission gearing to get an optimal full mile run.

The power is the easy one, although a forced induction car with an air to air intercooler is going to create a lot of cooling drag.

Aerodynamics are the key - you need to allow the car to cut through the air with as little resistance as possible without creating left. Zdaddy did a great job of controlling airflow under his car with the lower front spoiler and splitter, but (from what I can see from the pic) did not cover up the tires, which by body design stick into the airflow past the car and create major drag.

You really want a Camaro for one reason, you can use the nose air intakes for cooling, something that the Firebird doesn't have to eliminate the air dam under the car (a huge drag creator).

The car that ran 300mph had about 1,400hp or so and was massaged - so it wasn't stock.

Hot rod had an article in 1989 of a Trans Am that had a massaged body and a 650hp detuned NASCAR motor - ran 240mph, the same as the McLaren F1, which is a much smaller car with about 1,200lbs less to move around...