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03-21-2006, 04:53 PM
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#1 | | Senior Member
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Car: '90 Trans Am-12.63@108.69 Engine: 355 w/E-Tec 200's Transmission: Tremec T-56 Axle/Gears: 12 Bolt 3.73 | Finally For those interested ......I was just there and the headers are finally being fabricated. 
__________________ Chronologically challenged. But still kicking!
Being "over the hill" is much better than being under it!
'90 Trans Am
355 w/E-tec 200's W/SDPC intake, SLP runners, Crower cam, 1.6 rockers, 52mm TB,
1 3/4" coated headers, 9-bolt 3.70's
Dual cats, 3" cat back, Tremec 6 spd.(T-56)
McLeod clutch, B4C Alt., LS1 rear brakes
boxed LCA's & relocation brkts.
If it Slips, Drips or Funny Shifts...time for a T-56....
ET: 12.632 @ 108.69
Dyno: 324 RWHP, 405 RWTQ
'69 camaro-BB/Lenco,1050 dominators, Pump Gas/no drugs 8.97@150+/3200lbs.
Member: SoCal-FBodies , So. Cal 3rd Gens , My 1st Gen action photo , My TA |
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03-21-2006, 06:27 PM
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Car: White KSwisses Engine: 5.3L Gen III | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Dyno Don For those interested ......I was just there and the headers are finally being fabricated.  | Thats my luck...3 days too late.
Oh well. |
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03-21-2006, 06:29 PM
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Car: 1989 GTA Engine: 355 TPI Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: 3.70 Nine Bolt | Confirm me for one order. Kind of hard to believe. By the way I will take one of the Special Edition sets. |
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03-21-2006, 11:39 PM
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| I saw your title to this thread, Don, and thought you were comenting on how long it took to get TGO back up! TGO did get up quicker than your headers, though! Did you double the order? |
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03-22-2006, 11:49 AM
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Car: '90 Trans Am-12.63@108.69 Engine: 355 w/E-Tec 200's Transmission: Tremec T-56 Axle/Gears: 12 Bolt 3.73 | Yes I, did  |
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03-22-2006, 07:41 PM
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Car: Assorted Engine: Various Transmission: Manual and Automatic | Please include me. Thank You.  |
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03-22-2006, 09:28 PM
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Car: 89 1LE IROC Z28 Engine: Super Ram 6.4 Liter Transmission: 700R4 Trans-Go shift kit Axle/Gears: Borg Warner 9 Bolt With 3.70 Gears | Put me on the list |
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03-23-2006, 12:31 PM
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Car: '92 Camaro RS Engine: 355 TPI Transmission: Tremec T-56 Axle/Gears: 10 bolt/3.42 | Don,
You do have a set earmarked for my new motor correct?
Jonathan... |
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03-23-2006, 04:13 PM
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Car: '90 Trans Am-12.63@108.69 Engine: 355 w/E-Tec 200's Transmission: Tremec T-56 Axle/Gears: 12 Bolt 3.73 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Js92RS Don,
You do have a set earmarked for my new motor correct?
Jonathan... | Yes, you are covered.
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Originally Posted by InsaneIROC Put me on the list | You are coverd too 
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03-24-2006, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Js92RS Don,
You do have a set earmarked for my new motor correct?
Jonathan... |
Hey Jonathan.. Awesome to see your now able to start building your car.. It's going to be sweet.. I seen your heads there with Don.. So smooth.. Good luck with everything..  |
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03-24-2006, 04:01 PM
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Car: '92 Camaro RS Engine: 355 TPI Transmission: Tremec T-56 Axle/Gears: 10 bolt/3.42 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by BrandenCali Hey Jonathan.. Awesome to see your now able to start building your car.. It's going to be sweet.. I seen your heads there with Don.. So smooth.. Good luck with everything..  | Yeah I've been wanting to do this for a while now, it's not as radical as some of you guy's combo but I'm sure that I will be very happy w/ the results because the master builder is on the job. I am not aiming for the fastest time or anything like that, just something respectable and can keep up w/ you guys.
Later,
Jonathan...  |
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03-24-2006, 05:25 PM
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Car: 1991 RS Vert / 2006 Cobalt SS Engine: LO5 / 2.0 Ecotec Supercharged Transmission: TH700R4 / 5-speed Axle/Gears: LS1 10 Bolt w/ Disc/3.73 - 4.05 LSD | add one more to the list don, coated headers and a y-pipe please sir! |
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03-25-2006, 01:50 AM
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Car: '90 Trans Am-12.63@108.69 Engine: 355 w/E-Tec 200's Transmission: Tremec T-56 Axle/Gears: 12 Bolt 3.73 | Headers Here is what they look like:
(these are for installations with 'vette heads or Vortec) |
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03-25-2006, 01:55 AM
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Car: '90 Trans Am-12.63@108.69 Engine: 355 w/E-Tec 200's Transmission: Tremec T-56 Axle/Gears: 12 Bolt 3.73 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by langss Please include me. Thank You.  | Will do! (sorry for being so slow) |
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03-25-2006, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Dyno Don Will do! (sorry for being so slow) | Not to worry, they will go on the 84.  |
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03-26-2006, 12:13 AM
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Car: 1990 Camaro RS Engine: 305 TBI (L03) Transmission: 700R4 (MD8) Axle/Gears: 2.73 Open (GU2) | B-E-A-UTIFUL!!!!!!!!
Maybe I missed something, but whats the price on these bad boys? |
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03-26-2006, 02:04 PM
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Car: 1991 RS Vert / 2006 Cobalt SS Engine: LO5 / 2.0 Ecotec Supercharged Transmission: TH700R4 / 5-speed Axle/Gears: LS1 10 Bolt w/ Disc/3.73 - 4.05 LSD | just wondering, are AFR 190's externally or internally EGR plumbed? cause that will tell me what kind of headers i need... |
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03-26-2006, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SchwarzCamaroRS just wondering, are AFR 190's externally or internally EGR plumbed? cause that will tell me what kind of headers i need... | How did you get them? They are not plumbed for egr, race only heads; but they can be ordered drilled for internal egr, I think. It is one of the things that raises the price on AFR heads. |
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03-26-2006, 06:09 PM
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Car: '90 Trans Am-12.63@108.69 Engine: 355 w/E-Tec 200's Transmission: Tremec T-56 Axle/Gears: 12 Bolt 3.73 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by SchwarzCamaroRS just wondering, are AFR 190's externally or internally EGR plumbed? cause that will tell me what kind of headers i need... | Also what plug angle....AFR's..... or Corvette ....or straight? |
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03-28-2006, 01:21 AM
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Car: 1991 RS Vert / 2006 Cobalt SS Engine: LO5 / 2.0 Ecotec Supercharged Transmission: TH700R4 / 5-speed Axle/Gears: LS1 10 Bolt w/ Disc/3.73 - 4.05 LSD | id do normal straight plugs in it unless you think otherwise would be better... but i had planned on getting a pair soon... well unless someone could suggest something better... |
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03-28-2006, 12:32 PM
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Car: '90 Trans Am-12.63@108.69 Engine: 355 w/E-Tec 200's Transmission: Tremec T-56 Axle/Gears: 12 Bolt 3.73 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by SchwarzCamaroRS id do normal straight plugs in it unless you think otherwise would be better... but i had planned on getting a pair soon... well unless someone could suggest something better... | The Trick Flows are the best bang for the buck, unless you are trying to set an NHRA record
Vincent & Allen have them and are laying down good #s (they have the corvette plug angle). |
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03-28-2006, 02:08 PM
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Car: 1991 RS Vert / 2006 Cobalt SS Engine: LO5 / 2.0 Ecotec Supercharged Transmission: TH700R4 / 5-speed Axle/Gears: LS1 10 Bolt w/ Disc/3.73 - 4.05 LSD | lol, im sure this has been said before, but i want to be different. i already know what their setups can do. both the guys i knew in AZ that were running 406cid SBC used AFR 190's and they both said they would never use anything else, so i figured id try them on a 355cid but if everyone here likes the trickflows better, might as well go with what works |
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03-28-2006, 02:14 PM
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Car: 98 z28 Engine: ls1 Transmission: t56 Axle/Gears: soon to be 3.73's | I personally don't have any experience with this but form what i've heard from others who do, trickflows are great out of the box and don't require much work for relatively cheap. Same for afr but they are not easy on the pocket. Trickflows flow just about as much as you'll ever need out of a 350 and afr's can go from a 350 to a 406 to a smallblock 427. Basically, if you just want a good 12 second 350, trickflows will more than do the trick. Afr's are heavy and expensive, but are great heads. Your choice. |
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03-28-2006, 02:14 PM
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Car: White KSwisses Engine: 5.3L Gen III | The way i feel about it, is if you have the money and are willing to spend it, go with the AFRs. James' car ran 12.3x with untouched AFRs. |
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03-28-2006, 02:21 PM
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Car: 1991 RS Vert / 2006 Cobalt SS Engine: LO5 / 2.0 Ecotec Supercharged Transmission: TH700R4 / 5-speed Axle/Gears: LS1 10 Bolt w/ Disc/3.73 - 4.05 LSD | Quote: |
Originally Posted by cali92RS The way i feel about it, is if you have the money and are willing to spend it, go with the AFRs. James' car ran 12.3x with untouched AFRs. | exactly.... the AFR's i want are only a few hundred more than the trickflows... In my book, Anything worth doing, is worth doing right... the first time. The way i see it, a 400rwhp capable sbc is a hard thing to do, even with the trickflow heads and still retain smog legality. Ill try it with the AFR's. Im sure its possible...
p.s. for everyone that thinks im nuts for building this motor seeing that i have a vert, dont worry, i plan on putting it in a hardtop... lol |
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03-28-2006, 06:22 PM
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Car: 1989 GTA Engine: 355 TPI Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: 3.70 Nine Bolt | 400RWHP is a lofty goal especially with a 700R4. My new years resolution was to see how close I can come to it. Good luck in your quest and lets see who comes the closest. Vincent is at the 373RWHP mark and with a few tweaks here and there I think he can make it. But he is running a World Class T5 so his route is a little easier. |
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03-30-2006, 01:42 PM
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Car: 1991 RS Vert / 2006 Cobalt SS Engine: LO5 / 2.0 Ecotec Supercharged Transmission: TH700R4 / 5-speed Axle/Gears: LS1 10 Bolt w/ Disc/3.73 - 4.05 LSD | im going to use a T56, not a 700R4 lol, not unless it was a Raptor 700, but with the cam ill probably use i need high rear end gears, and 3.73's and 700R4's dont make a very friendly combo... 130-140mph top speed and 3000+ rpm @ 80... i get 13mpg now driving it anywhere. |
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03-30-2006, 06:34 PM
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| Remember Vincent's Trickflows have only been worked on on the exhaust side. Intake side is stock and he has put down 370rwhp with it. |
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03-30-2006, 11:38 PM
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