Go Back   Third Generation F-Body Message Boards > Tech Boards > Suspension / Chassis
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?

Suspension / Chassis Questions about your suspension? Need chassis advice?

Welcome to ThirdGen.org!
Welcome to ThirdGen.org.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, join the ThirdGen.org community today!


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 08-03-2006, 04:13 PM   #1
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: NJ
Posts: 107
Car: 1991 Pontiac Firebird
Engine: 305 TBI
Transmission: 5 speed Manual

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Cost of Installation for Subframe Connectors

I was considering getting Subframe Connectors for my Firebird and I was wondering how much the install would cost. On NJFBOA Someone recommended a local shop to me and they told me the labor alone would cost $400. He said he would have to remove most of the interior in order to do it. Also, my car is undercoated so that might make it a little harder but it still sounds like a really high price to me. How much does labor usually cost for SFCs??
__________________
1991 Pontiac Firebird 305TBI,Black, 5spd w/ T-Tops
Mods: Dynomax Catback exhaust, 180 Thermostat, 200/185 fan switch, Earl's SS Brake Lines
91black5spd is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2006, 04:33 PM   #2
Supreme Member
 
Randy82WS7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: 62656
Posts: 4,809
Car: 1991 S10 pickup 2700lbs
Engine: 4.3L Z TBI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.08 7.625"

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Send a message via MSN to Randy82WS7 Send a message via Yahoo to Randy82WS7 Send a message via Skype™ to Randy82WS7
there aint no way

should be able to find a local small time welder shop guy to stick them on for a fraction of that much

for real
ask around

someone knows someone

lots of ppl have welders
Randy82WS7 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2006, 05:19 PM   #3
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: NJ
Posts: 107
Car: 1991 Pontiac Firebird
Engine: 305 TBI
Transmission: 5 speed Manual

Classifieds Rating: (0)
I thought it sounded way too high, I'll check with some other places.
Is it true that the interior needs to be taken out? I had SFC's on a mustang in the past and didn't have to do anything with the interior and there were no burns in the carpet, etc.
__________________
1991 Pontiac Firebird 305TBI,Black, 5spd w/ T-Tops
Mods: Dynomax Catback exhaust, 180 Thermostat, 200/185 fan switch, Earl's SS Brake Lines
91black5spd is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2006, 05:30 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: hamilton nj
Posts: 775
Car: 91 Camaro RS
Engine: 350 bored .030 carbed
Transmission: t5
Axle/Gears: 3.08

Classifieds Rating: (-1)
Send a message via AIM to IceManRS305
hey man im in central nj if you find someone that will weld up subframes for a good price can ya please let me know? thanks alot man.....
IceManRS305 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2006, 06:05 PM   #5
Junior Member
 
16KS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Michigan
Posts: 7
Car: '91 Firebird Formula
Engine: 350 (carbureted)
Transmission: Th 700-R4
Axle/Gears: 4.10

Classifieds Rating: (0)
i have the weld in subframe connectors too, the best bet for you is to call around to some exhaust shops because they weld a lot, so they usually know what they are doing, if you take it to someplace like that you should be able to get it for a lot cheaper than $400 you just have to do some callin around
16KS is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2006, 06:27 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Miramichi, NB
Posts: 1,424
Car: 86 Monte Carlo
Engine: Blown 489
Transmission: TH400
Axle/Gears: 9" 370s

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Send a message via ICQ to roughskinjrz Send a message via MSN to roughskinjrz
Quote:
Originally Posted by 91black5spd
I thought it sounded way too high, I'll check with some other places.
Is it true that the interior needs to be taken out? I had SFC's on a mustang in the past and didn't have to do anything with the interior and there were no burns in the carpet, etc.
it doesnt always happen, but there is a risk of burning holes in the carpet. There is no way the guy has any sense, charging 400$ so install subframe connectors. He can weld but its at your own risk if carpet happens to burn any holes, thats why he was taking the precaution but i suggest you find someone else.

I bought new carpet but im didnt bother installing it until i get the SC's and other suspension installed this weekend.
roughskinjrz is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2006, 06:53 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
rwdtech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: central Indiana
Posts: 1,973
Car: 1991 Z28 (sold)

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Send a message via AIM to rwdtech Send a message via MSN to rwdtech
damn so it is a real concern about the carpet burning? what parts of the carpet have to be pulled? i just hate how somtimes that kind of stuff doesnt go back in perfect after u take it out.
__________________
-Dan
Click sig for Cardomain

SOLD: 91 Z28, original paint, 35% tint, 305 TPI, headers, high flow cat, American thunder cat back, shift kit, 3.73 gears, Lakewood adjustable panhard rod, TB cone filter, Superior Axle and Gear Evolution Series axle shafts, Energy Suspension poly trans mount, Jet Fan Switch, 255/50/16 Falken Ziex ZE-512.
my video
rwdtech is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2006, 07:02 PM   #8
Supreme Member
 
Stevo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Northern, VA
Posts: 3,976
Car: Pair of 92 Z28s

Classifieds Rating: (45)
I had my passenger side SFC installed by a speed shop and they didnt have to pull back the carpet and no burns here...Just the passenger side cost me $200 and dont forget i have dual catalytic converters on my car so it makes it a little more tuff. They normally charge $150 a side so $300 for all.


So take off 2 interior panels and pull the carpet back towards the center console/seat and your done... Thats all it takes and its not hard at all to get it back in correctly.
__________________

Stevo is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2006, 07:39 PM   #9
Senior Member
 
J's T/A's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Idaho Falls
Posts: 774
Car: 82 Trans Am
Engine: LTX
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 3.42 strengthed 7.5 inch

Classifieds Rating: (2)
I had mine done at a local racefab shop for 120.00 but that was 6years ago.. He did pull back the carpet in a few key points, I have the jegster connectors. Look for a smaller shop, the best price and quality can be there, just so long as they actually "know" what you want done.

the shop was Matt Wirt Racefab in Chesapeake VA.
__________________
82 T/A LT1 everything old is new again.
355, studded mains, stock crank, 6in scat rods, Mahle pistons, OBD1 converted, delteq, LE Heads, pac1518s, pro-magnums, LE2 cam, stock lifters, LE intake, 52mm throttle body, Programmed by CAM, hedman lts, mufflex exhaust, LS1 (ebmiller) brakes, 02 M/C, eibach sportline front and pro rear springs, jegs subframes and torque arm, hotchis lcas, spohn panhard, bmr upper panhard, TDS swaybars/wonderbar, inland empire driveshaft, pst bushings, bilsteins...
J's T/A is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-2006, 12:58 AM   #10
Senior Member
 
V8Rumble's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: 39.84N 105.11W
Posts: 1,534
Car: '89 Trans Am GTA
Engine: WAS 350 - now L92 (alum. 378/6.2L)
Transmission: WAS 700R4, now a built T56
Axle/Gears: 3.27 9-bolt

Classifieds Rating: (2)
I've been quoted anywhere from $75 (local performance shop) to $200 (body shop I pretty much trust) to get SFCs welded in. I agree, $400 sounds way high. Do some calling around, I'm sure you can do better.

Also, do you know anyone who works at a muffler/exhaust shop? I've got a hookup at one through a friend of mine, & I'm supposed to be getting my SFCs welded in tomorrow for free... (Crossing fingers...)
V8Rumble is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2006, 10:30 PM   #11
Supreme Member
 
MikeH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Fla
Posts: 1,780
Car: 90 IROC
Engine: 406
Transmission: GMPP 93/4L60
Axle/Gears: 9 bolt 3.27

Classifieds Rating: (10)
I had mine welded in for free...i bolted them in first though. I had the car in for some exhaust work right after the subframe install. Dual cat car..asked the tech if he could weld them in while he was welding the exhaust.

If there welding them to the subframe and the pinchweld i dont see a reason to pull the carpet. If your welding to the floorpan that might be a cause for concern.
MikeH is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2006, 10:30 PM
ThirdGen
1992 Camaro




Paid Advertisement


Reply

Go Back   Third Generation F-Body Message Boards > Tech Boards > Suspension / Chassis

Tags
91, body, car, charge, connectors, cost, fbody, firebird, frame, install, labor, subframe, time, trans, weld
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

 


1982 Camaro '82 || 1983 Camaro '83 || 1984 Camaro '84 || 1985 Camaro '85 || 1986 Camaro '86 || 1987 Camaro '87 || 1988 Camaro '88 || 1989 Camaro '89 || 1990 Camaro '90 || 1991 Camaro '91 || 1992 Camaro '92


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:53 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright © 1997 - 2012 ThirdGen.org. All rights reserved. No part of this website may be reproduced without the expressed, documented, and written consent of ThirdGen.org's Administrators.

Emails & Contact Details