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Old 10-29-2008, 01:21 PM   #1
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global west control arms... no panhard rod?

"Global West's Super Duty rear lower control arms are designed to be factory replacement units. They are intended for applications that require the utmost in control. Drag racing, road racing, autocross, and street performance cars will benefit by using these Super Duty rear control arms. These control arms use spherical aircraft bearings and Del-a-lum bushings to control rear-end lateral movement, as well as fore and aft location. They allow for full rear-end articulation without bind and eliminate the need for a panhard rod."

I copied this from http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku , Is it true that these eliminate the need of a panhard rod? Or, is this only for off road applications? my car is my daily driver...
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Re: global west control arms... no panhard rod?

No way, whats going to keep your rear from going side to side in cornering? Without the panhard i think the rear will just fall out of the car lol.

Maybe im wrong but i wouldnt even back my car out of the shed without it.
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Re: global west control arms... no panhard rod?

i agree, that's why i questioned it. It also seems like it would put a lot of stress on the control arm mounting points. It must only be made to go 1/4 mile at a time.
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Re: global west control arms... no panhard rod?

i may be wrong but i just don't understand how they can replace the panhard bar . has anybody tried them ?
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Re: global west control arms... no panhard rod?

I have those GW control arms in my car....

You still need a panhard rod - they are probably referring to not neding an aftermarket rod with their arms.
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Re: global west control arms... no panhard rod?

its a typo or a line of bs

you need a panhard bar, end of story.
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Re: global west control arms... no panhard rod?

You can eliminate the panhard rod with their control arms because of the bushing design. They put massive load on the chassis mounts and create an unbelievable amount of bind in the rear suspension because of the Delrin bushing on the chassis side. It is also that Delrin bushing which would eliminate side to side movement and therefore allowing the removal of the panhard rod. You can still use a panhard rod as long as you are using a panhard rod with soft rubber bushings. If you switched to a panhard rod with rod ends your suspension would probably lock up or tear some mounts.
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Re: global west control arms... no panhard rod?

it doesnt sound like a good idea, whats to keep the control arm mounts from tearing with all that extra lateral load?
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Re: global west control arms... no panhard rod?

There's no way I would eliminate the panhard bar, how would you center the axle. Later.
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Re: global west control arms... no panhard rod?


I can't believe that claim... If they were cheaper and I had an extra car, I wouldn't mind testing them out just for shits and giggles.


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Re: global west control arms... no panhard rod?

I smell a law suit
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