Looking to buy Edelbrock manifold and cam package for 305/350 TBI...good stuff? What kind of power gains can I expect based on my sig? Thanks... ------------------ '89 RS LO3- 140,000 miles 14x3 K&N Open Element Ram Heavy Duty clutch Edelbrock TES (Jet-hot coated) Catco cat Edelbrock 3" Cat-back Pioneer DEH-P77 Dual .50 caliber machine guns just under ground effects Coming: KYB shocks Edelbrock Strut Tower Brace South Side Machine subframe connectors When your buddy reaches for a 10-pound sledge and says "I think we're gonna have to modify the floor pan, okay?" the answer is NO.

manifold is a thumbs up, i love mine. edelbrock cams are abig thumbs down though. look for a used LT1 cam if you can. you'll prolly be able to pick it up for cheaper and it happens to be better for our motors.

lata
tim

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Thumbs down on the Edel cam. No reason to step backwards to a flat tappet cam when you are already setup for the superior roller unit.

Thanks for the input...I was just wondering if the pre-made match, i.e. the manifold with that certain cam was any good...but I take it it's not...so what cam should I go for? I want to buy a Summit, 'cause they're cheap...should I stick with the 214 that the Edelbrock would be? Is that the magic number to go with the manifold? Sorry, but I'm clueless about cam selection...LT1 sounds pretty good...if I can find one around here. Suggestions? Thanks again...

Check the classifieds here..you may be able to get your hands on a used Edelbrock TBI intake. I got one for $70...works great.

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92 Camaro RS, LO3, 5-spd, T-tops

Performance:
K&N Open Air Filter, Edelbrock performer TBI intake, Fastchip Prom, Timing +4 degrees, Centerforce clutch, Xact 8mm wires, SLP 1 3/4" Headers (coated), Flowmaster Catback Exhaust, Z28 Grille w/aftmkt fog lamps, MacEwen white-face guages
Electronics:
Alpine 8030 Alarm System, Valentine One Radar Detector (How did I ever drive without one?), Pioneer DEH 7450 Head Unit w/6-pack CD changer, Pioneer DEQ 7600 Sound Processor, 2 Kenwood KAC-846 Amps powering 2 12" Pro Red subs, 2 Pioneer 6x9 and 2 MTX 4x6 speakers.
NEXT UP: TBI mods, 3.42 gears w/Torsen posi

i agree with most of the people here.. thumbs up on the intake.. but there are definitly better cams out there..

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91 camaro RS
- 305 TBI
Mods: Performer TBI intake, 1" TBI spacer, K+N, jet fan switch ,160 thermo,Accel control module, Jet Stage 2 chip, edelbrock TES headers, Compleate 3" Flowmaster exhaust, Edelbrock springs, KYB struts and shocks, 700R4 built by TSI, SLP tq converter, b+m trans cooler, white guage faces, megashifter..
next month: spohn LCA's and panhard rod, BMR relocation brackets, 323 gear

look for a used LT1 cam. you can usually pick one up for between 30-50 bucks. since it is a roller, just like our stockers, they don't wear out unless a lifter goes bad. roller cams are safe to buy used.

lata
tim

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91 Camaro RS-LO3,Auto.
14.209@95.46mph
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Ever hear of the Holley/Weiand intake? TONS better than the Edelbrock and the fit is sweet.
Check it out at www.holley.com. The 300-49 is the one I have. The 300-66 is another option, I think it is a higher rise.
http://www.holley.com./HiOctn/ProdLi...M/f300-49.html


[This message has been edited by Snowdog 91 Formula (edited May 26, 2001).]

After years of troublesome stories about the holley TBI intake, I'd take the Edelbrock one any day.

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-Tas
'89 Formula WS-6

305, TBI, auto, 14x3 chrome flat based open element with K&N, Milodon 160* thermo, functional Formula hood, cross-flow Flowmaster, '99z28 rear pipes and tips....

Soon to be installed:
Hooker 1-5/8" 50 state legal headers, Dynomax 3" I pipe (PN 44063 and 43248), Catco 3" cat, and injector spacer.

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I tend to disagree with you for one reason... the Edelbrock intake isn't too much more spectacular than the stock manifold, but it's your money, not mine.

Buy a Performer Carb intake and a Holley TBI adapter plate. Then, use the LT1 or LT4 OEM roller cam. Good stuff. If you really want a flat-hyd, go with COMP XE249-12.


ON a (non-stock!!!) TBI'd 350cid, the 3702 Edel camshaft got around 235+ hp or so. Not to shabby but a lot of time was put into custom PROM work on the dyno. BTW, the 3702 cam is/was made for the L05 (?) 305 V8 A LONG TIME ago but Edelbrock says it was custom made for TBI all of a sudden. Hmmm = advertising! It even says that cam is for both engines in their catalogs!!! Be careful. It is a REAL mellow cam, too. 194/214deg at .050" with like .396"/.442" lift.

[This message has been edited by FastBroker (edited May 29, 2001).]

I'd put on a Torker2(or other small plenum single plane) intake with adapter before the performer with TBI adapter.

Tried that on the dyn, didn't work with up to XE250 cam, might work with bigger cam, but I doubt it. An RPM would be MUCH better than a torker II, but the Performer can fit the 2" bores handily and has nice enough runners.

ya the torker setup would have to use all the RPM the engine can give with a nice cam too. Usualy 6500 RPM with a hydraulic roller cam.

I was looking at the torker 2 at PAW and I think the weiand version would be better. the Edelbrock version has thin walls and they taper up. The Weiand small plenum single plane has more material if you need to grind on the sides to fit the wide TBI unit.

hey FB, you ever go to www.jeepsunlimited.com ? I'm YJ4LIFE over there if I haven't told you yet
-Tas
'89 Formula
'89 Wrangler

I'm just about to list some stuff for sale over there. I can send you an email if you are looking for V8 conversion stuff and/or 31x12.50x15 BFG AT Tires???

I still like dual-plane manifolds over the TorkerII. The runners on the RPM are actaully quite a bit bigger than the Torkers, FYI. The RPM's on good heads (even Votecs) can sing to 6500 with ease, slightly more with gasket matching.

ya send me a list of the stuff for sale. I already got 31" BFG AT KOs. I'm looking for bigger now. You have finger on any TJ flares?

I got no problemns with the Performer RPM I just don't like the Performer. The runners on the torker2 looked small like the performer. The RPMs looked .2" taller I think and a bit wider too. I have an idea on how to turn the Performer RPM into a TBI "tuned" intake. I've discussed it with a couple members on here.

no TJ flares. You have the 10.50 wide tires. Mine are 12.50 wide. Much better for the 350!!! Guess they are too much for OEM motor, though. and need more lift, too... I'm going to 35x14.50x15 Mickey Thompson Baja Belted HP's... f'ing expensive...

All I know is that you can put mellow cams (ie Comp XE250) into a 350cid with moderate compression (9.0:1 max) and EASILY get 300hp with a Performer manifold. Yeah, you can get more for sure with the same combo and RPM, but with a slight loss of low-end/mileage with low rpm od. If that is no matter, the RPM is great. For a drag car/weekender, the RPM is best, but for a ddriver of 100miles per day that will NEVER see a track, the Performer is best, IMO.