TBI Throttle Body Injection discussion and questions. L03/CFI tech and other performance enhancements.

Throttle sticks but isn't pysically sticking

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-29-2007, 05:58 PM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
PyRo9862's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Long Island, New York
Posts: 998
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 91RS
Engine: 305tbi
Transmission: 700R4
Throttle sticks but isn't pysically sticking

This is a 1991 305tbi 5spd.

Maybe my title was a little strange but what's happening is when I push the gas pedal down more than half way and let go it doesn't immediately throttle down. It stays revved up for about three seconds. I know it isn't supposed to immediately drop but it shouldn't be staying revved up this high.

Ok, the throttle cable is messed up right? I replaced it a couple months ago and figured I probably got a bad one. So I take the air cleaner off and rev it by hand. I can see the butterflys fully closed but it's still revved up and making a weird noise (probably from trying to suck so much air around passed the butterflys). So it's not a problem with the cable. And furthermore I'm baffeled how it is revving up with the butterflys closed.

Next I pulled the throttle body off and apart and thoroughly blasted it out with throttle body cleaner. I got tons of gunk and grime out and re-installed the throttle body with RTV and a new gasket.

Does anyone have any ideas? I'd greatly appreciate any help.
Old 12-29-2007, 08:07 PM
  #2  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (1)
 
Pablo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Posts: 3,257
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 3 Posts
Car: Turbo Buick
Engine: 3.8 V6
Re: Throttle sticks but isn't pysically sticking

either you have a vacuum leak or your IAC motor is sticking. I'm leaning toward IAC since it only does it after you rev.

Last edited by Pablo; 12-29-2007 at 08:11 PM.
Old 12-29-2007, 09:16 PM
  #3  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
PyRo9862's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Long Island, New York
Posts: 998
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 91RS
Engine: 305tbi
Transmission: 700R4
Re: Throttle sticks but isn't pysically sticking

Originally Posted by Pablo
either you have a vacuum leak or your IAC motor is sticking. I'm leaning toward IAC since it only does it after you rev.
Vacuum leak for the win. Thanks. Now the throttle cable is sticking though. I can't win with this thing.
Old 12-31-2007, 11:40 PM
  #4  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (2)
 
dimented24x7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moorestown, NJ
Posts: 9,962
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Car: 88 Camaro SC
Engine: SFI'd 350
Transmission: TKO 500
Axle/Gears: 9-bolt w/ 3.23's
Re: Throttle sticks but isn't pysically sticking

Worn TBI will cause this. The base wears around the throttle shaft into an egg shape and the throttle blades hang on the bores under vacuum, causing the engine to have a fast idle. Way to check is to open the throttle (at the TBI itself) half way by hand and try to move the throttle shaft around. If it can be moved at all, then the TBI is worn, and can cause issues. If it moves a lot, you've found your problem.
Old 02-17-2008, 09:00 PM
  #5  
Junior Member
 
usadiesel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Palmyra, NJ
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: Camaro RS
Engine: 305 TBI
Transmission: Automatic
Re: Throttle sticks but isn't pysically sticking

I have a very similar problem. Even when I just open the throttle a little bit, it wants to keep idling high. When coming to a stop, if I rev the engine, the revs will come back down and idle normally. I have cleaned the throttle body, but that didn't seem to do anything.
Old 02-17-2008, 09:12 PM
  #6  
Moderator

 
Apeiron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Mercedes Norte, Heredia, Costa Rica
Posts: 20,981
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 8 Posts
Car: 1984 Z28 Hardtop
Engine: 383 Carb
Transmission: 4L60
Axle/Gears: 3.54 Dana 44
Re: Throttle sticks but isn't pysically sticking

Originally Posted by dimented24x7
The base wears around the throttle shaft into an egg shape and the throttle blades hang on the bores under vacuum, causing the engine to have a fast idle.
Happens on anything with a throttle... TBI, TPI, Carb, whatever.
Old 02-17-2008, 09:54 PM
  #7  
Junior Member
 
usadiesel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Palmyra, NJ
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: Camaro RS
Engine: 305 TBI
Transmission: Automatic
Re: Throttle sticks but isn't pysically sticking

It there a certain amount of play that is acceptable, or is any play grounds for replacement?
Old 02-18-2008, 01:30 PM
  #8  
Member
 
oldred95's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 331
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Re: Throttle sticks but isn't pysically sticking

I'd guess a bad IAC valve. Mine likes to stick randomly for some reason. The other morning on my way to work I was idling at 1400 out of gear, 1200 in gear and it was pulling like made at a stop. About half way to work it had a sort of hicup, nearly died when coming to a stop and then all was well again. I'm not about to pay 90 bucks for a new one though. I've got a 454 throttle body on mine, different IAC and of course a higher price.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
GeneralIesrussi
Carburetors
5
01-20-2020 01:06 PM
Jorlain
Tech / General Engine
6
10-08-2015 01:57 AM
tglennon11
Electronics
10
09-23-2015 05:30 PM
GTAman
Transmissions and Drivetrain
15
09-14-2015 09:53 AM
Randomtask2
TBI
9
09-07-2015 05:06 PM



Quick Reply: Throttle sticks but isn't pysically sticking



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:03 PM.