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Old 03-03-2005, 11:46 AM   #51
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There are two things that cause accidents.

1. Your stupidity..

2. Someone else's stupidity.

You can do something about #1, you can only watch out for #2.

Vader is indeed correct. Being able to AVOID the accident is the key. A good running, properly maintained vehicle is you BEST insurance policy. I have had the opportunity to test this theory more times than I care to count. Sometimes it absolutely amazes me some of the people they will give a drivers license to...... Far too many people see driving as a RIGHT, instead of the priveledge that it truly is. This is the main reason you will never see autobohns in the US, we simply do not have the discipline for it. (a general statement, not a blanket statement....)
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Old 03-03-2005, 01:21 PM   #52
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i walked away with 2 stitches in my finger, my buddy got 3 in his thumb or something..

oh ya, i flipped of a dirt bank thinking i could take corners like an import or something.
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Old 03-03-2005, 01:58 PM   #53
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I saw a accddent a few years back were a camaro was broken into 2 pices the front end was compleatly off the car and the people were still standing i was shocked so i think they do hold up well.
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Old 03-03-2005, 02:10 PM   #54
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talk about back from the dead. 4 year old post...
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Old 03-03-2005, 02:12 PM   #55
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I bet someone actualy used the search button for once to find this post lol.
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Old 03-03-2005, 02:51 PM   #56
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No car takes being t boned very well. I always look left and right before crossing an intersection even when I have a green light. Only 3 days ago, some one who wasn't paying attention in a big heavy suv ran a light right in front of me. If I had not looked left first, she whould have t boned me. This has happened more times than I care to mention. Gives me chills just thinking about what could have happened.

Compared to most cars of it's time, a third gen isn't too bad. The father in law ooosted to do hwy patrol and would often be the first one on a crash site. He thinks 3rd gens hold up fairly well. He isn't to fond of the way school busses fair in a crash tho. Lucky enough for them, most of their drivers are above average.
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Old 03-03-2005, 06:28 PM   #57
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think i need to bookmark this post though. I normally keep a gap between the cars infront of me, and try to leave room beside me incase I need to swerve over... but lately in my stupidity have been a bit more "lax" on doing so... reading all of this has me better motivated to drive like I should.

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Old 03-04-2005, 01:23 PM   #58
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For what it's worth, i've been doing this firefighter gig for over 26 years, I teach emergency vehicle operating class, and I used to have an SCCA regional competition license. During all of this time, I can never recall a fatal accident in a camaro or (mustang), in fact, I don't ever recall cutting someone out of a camaro. I went to a wreck once where this lady in a 3rd gen firebired ran into the back of some car (it's been awhile), the bird sort of scooped the other car up onto it's ( the bird) roof, the car then rotated 180 degrees and went down the back of the bird facing the opposite direction. No one was injured.
Now, you want to talk about rycers, I've seen some unreal wrecks in those, the worst was when a mitsu 3000 went off of an interstate ramp and took a tree in the side of the driver's compartment, the car was cut in 1/2 and both occupants were ejected fatally. I've seen numerous rycer front drivers that have been cut in 1/2, I can't even remember, once the other vehicle, a Dodge mini van, was able to drive off.
One other thing, that air bag stuff IMO, is BS. If you have a minor impact, and it goes off, it can total the car from the damage. If your fingers are around the wheel, they break your thumbs, if you get hit in the side and suffer a head injury, the bag doesn't go off until you hit some thing else in front. So, let's say you have a cervical injury from the first hit, then you get hit in the face by Joe Frazier when the bag goes off on the second....welcome to your wheelchair. I've seen them deploy and just peel the skin off of elderly people's arms. Air bags will never be better than a good seatbelt and/or safety harness.
SUV's are great, until you hit another SUV.
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Old 03-04-2005, 09:35 PM   #59
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Kinda an odd post to bring back after four years. One of the posters from four years ago in this thread died in his GTA.

Kinda a real reminder to pay attention.
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Old 03-05-2005, 02:33 PM   #60
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Sorry to sound incensitive... but whom was it?
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Old 03-05-2005, 05:21 PM   #61
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GTA-Paladin

it was sad news indeed. Everyone wants to believe the cause of a bad and possibly fatal accident will be someone else.

IIRC Paladin lost control going pretty fast with some buddies in the car late at night and hit a wall. Im not sure if all of them were killed, I think maybe they were.
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Old 03-05-2005, 05:34 PM   #62
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Old 05-07-2009, 06:13 AM   #63
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Re: How safe are 3rd Gens in a bad crash?

my KITT is very safe
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Old 05-07-2009, 11:08 AM   #64
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Re: How safe are 3rd Gens in a bad crash?

wow. I never would have searched this topic, nor expected so many replies. I like to swap to the later, heavier doors for more side-impact protection. I'm not sure what the difference is, just an assumption. Still, it's cheap to do. I have a pair of '91 doors on my '82 Camaro right now. First thing I did to it.
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Old 05-07-2009, 11:33 AM   #65
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Re: How safe are 3rd Gens in a bad crash?

I personally rolled my old 92rs and walked away(I was wearing my seatbelt). I feel very safe driving a thirdgens.
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Old 05-07-2009, 01:11 PM   #66
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Re: How safe are 3rd Gens in a bad crash?

Here's a third gen exclusive site for accident victims:
http://iroc-z.com/wreckedirocs/wreckedirocs.htm

Here's a sample
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