Go Back   Third Generation F-Body Message Boards > Tech Boards > Tech / General Engine
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?

Tech / General Engine Is your car making a strange sound or won't start? Thinking of adding power with a new combination? Need other technical information or engine specific advice? Don't see another board for your problem? Post it here!

Welcome to ThirdGen.org!
Welcome to ThirdGen.org.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, join the ThirdGen.org community today!


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 03-19-2001, 08:00 PM   #1
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Rock Hill, SC
Posts: 1,412
Car: 1999 Pontiac T/A Firehawk
Engine: ***'s Engine
Transmission: T56

Classifieds Rating: (0)
10110810 heads? What are they?

Any good? I checked on mortec and all I see is "93-up 350 Gen I" which doesn't tell me a lot.

I've got a 350 I'm ripping apart and I'm trying to identify some pieces in it.

------------------
"Beware he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart, he dreams himself your master"

'84 Black Camaro ZZ4 M5 (V-6 in a former life) -- street beast
'91 Medium Blue Metallic Z28 A4 (UB-HSTRY's old ride) -- currently broken
'99 Navy Blue Metallic Firehawk #120 M6 (99.44% stock) -- daily driver
99Hawk120 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2001, 08:15 PM   #2
Moderator
 
Vader's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Posts: 17,679

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Hawk,

Could be Vortecs...

------------------
Later,
Vader
------------------
"I'm'a do Things My Way - It's My way or the Highway."
Adobe Acrobat Reader
Vader is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2001, 08:43 PM   #3
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Rock Hill, SC
Posts: 1,412
Car: 1999 Pontiac T/A Firehawk
Engine: ***'s Engine
Transmission: T56

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Little more info...

They're bolted to a stock SD TPI system. I thought the Vortec heads wouldn't match the intake runners on the TPI manifold??
99Hawk120 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2001, 10:29 PM   #4
Moderator
 
Vader's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Posts: 17,679

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Never mind...that klls that theory.

------------------
Later,
Vader
------------------
"I'm'a do Things My Way - It's My way or the Highway."
Adobe Acrobat Reader
Vader is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2001, 01:34 AM   #5
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Crystal Lake Il
Posts: 840
Car: '98 Z
Engine: LS1/6
Transmission: 4l60E

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Send a message via AIM to vortecfcar
prolly iron L98s

------------------
91 RS W/carbed 350, Vortec heads, performer rpm, Comp cams Xtreme energy 224/230 duration and .477/.480 lift. BFG Drag radials. 3.42 posi,Corvette servoed 700r4, 3000 stallconverter. Edelbrock TES, 3inch cat, flowmaster with single 2.5 inch exit.
Best time yet to come
12's?? :crossthumbs:

This is a Pic of my car in race trim www.tbns.net/billyjay/camero.jpg

Yes I know how to spell camaro- so dont ask. I didnt make the link
vortecfcar is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2001, 10:36 AM   #6
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Rock Hill, SC
Posts: 1,412
Car: 1999 Pontiac T/A Firehawk
Engine: ***'s Engine
Transmission: T56

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Oh, one more thing. The end is stamped with two triangles.
99Hawk120 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2001, 06:23 PM   #7
Moderator
 
Kevin91Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Disneyland, SoCal
Posts: 10,488
Car: 1991 Camaro Z28
Engine: 350 L98 siamesed runners
Transmission: LT1 T56
Axle/Gears: 9-Bolt 3.70

Classifieds Rating: (1)
Send a message via ICQ to Kevin91Z Send a message via AIM to Kevin91Z
The iron L98's are 14101081 I believe... Three triangles is Vortec heads.
Kevin91Z is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2001, 09:49 AM   #8
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Rock Hill, SC
Posts: 1,412
Car: 1999 Pontiac T/A Firehawk
Engine: ***'s Engine
Transmission: T56

Classifieds Rating: (0)
OK, so it's not Vortecs or Iron L98s... I still don't know what the hell they are.

Oh well. I'm probably going to sell them and let them be someone else's problem.
99Hawk120 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2001, 11:08 AM   #9
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Manassas VA
Posts: 3,197
Car: 04 GTO
Engine: LS1
Transmission: M12 T56

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Uh oh...according to http://www.nastyz28.com/sbchevy/sbch.html They're 305 swirl port heads... That'd be easy enough to tell though by looking, not to mention i don't see how the hell that thing ran 13s w/ swirl port heads. I guess madmike's isn't as accurate as it used to be.
...ed
Ed Maher is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2001, 07:20 PM   #10
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: What?!? Am I still here?
Posts: 176
Car: Mullitt mobile :)
Engine: it's stock LOL
Transmission: 700rJunk
Axle/Gears: 2 much 4 street not enough for strip

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Just for reference, the heads off my '89 L98 are #14101083.

Sparks a flyin'
sparks383iroc is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2001, 08:07 PM   #11
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Rock Hill, SC
Posts: 1,412
Car: 1999 Pontiac T/A Firehawk
Engine: ***'s Engine
Transmission: T56

Classifieds Rating: (0)
I'm not familiar enough with the 305 Swirl ports to know what they'd look like. I've seen about 6 different apps for these damn things and quite frankly it is starting to irritate me.

Off the top of my head, I've seen (that I remember)

93-up Gen I 350
86-87 Full Size Truck heads (HD)
84-85(?) 305 Station Wagon
99Hawk120 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2001, 10:02 PM   #12
Moderator
 
Kevin91Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Disneyland, SoCal
Posts: 10,488
Car: 1991 Camaro Z28
Engine: 350 L98 siamesed runners
Transmission: LT1 T56
Axle/Gears: 9-Bolt 3.70

Classifieds Rating: (1)
Send a message via ICQ to Kevin91Z Send a message via AIM to Kevin91Z
Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by sparks383iroc:
Just for reference, the heads off my '89 L98 are #14101083.

Sparks a flyin'
</font>
Ok, I always get those confused. The 1083 heads are the iron L98's and the 1081's are iron LB9's.
Kevin91Z is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2001, 10:14 PM   #13
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Springfield, MO, USA
Posts: 1,530
Car: 1986 Trans Am, 1991 Firebird
Engine: 355 TPI, 3.1L V6
Transmission: 700R4 in both

Classifieds Rating: (0)
They COULD be vortecs IF the heads were drilled so it would work on a TPI intake! My friend did that with his Iroc!!

------------------
1986 Trans AM
305 TPI
200,000+ miles (speedo/odometer non-funtional! Odometer reads 142,000)
4 Wheel Discs
9 bolt Borg Warner Rear (2.77's....oh joy) :P
Completely Stock
Soon to upgrade to a 383 converted from TPI to Carb, Edelbrock 600CFM Carb, Edelbrock Performer RPM Intake, Hedman Shorty Headers, AFR 195's (if I can afford them), XE268 Cam, Moroso HEI ignition kit with external MSD Blaster II Coil and an MSD 6-AL Box!!
Current project: Keeping my 305 running until I get my income tax returns!
86TpiTransAm is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2001, 10:22 PM   #14
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: clinton,tn
Posts: 1,686

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Could be 350tbi heads. I'm sure someone will identify them.
steve8586iroc is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2001, 10:47 PM   #15
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Heath, OH USA
Posts: 1,415
Car: 84 Z28
Engine: 355 (fastburn heads, LT4 HOT cam)
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 9-bolt, 3.27

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Send a message via AIM to JP84Z430HP Send a message via Yahoo to JP84Z430HP
My best educated guess would be Truck heads. I'll see what I can find out!

------------------
Working on:
'84 Z28 LG4 305 with 200,000 original miles!
Added dual elec fans.
145 MPH IROC Speedo
Building 430 HP 350 (ZZ430)
using primarily GMPP parts.
Short block sitting on a stand.

Starting to look like the Kicker poster child!

ASE Certified Master Tech
JP84Z430HP is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2001, 01:18 AM   #16
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Denver, colorado
Posts: 444

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Hawk, when you get them off, you will know if they are swirl ports and will probably get a good laugh too. You can at least rule out weather they are swirl ports by looking underneath the intake valve to see if there is a big f**** circular piece of casting there.You can also look down the intake runner and you will see a big f***** piece of casting there too!!
If you do, well, ya got swirlports.
I just compared a set of 193 casting swirl ports to a set of 217 castings and I couldn't believe the difference.
You will be able to tell by looking at them.
Good luck..........bob


------------------
91 camaro RS L03 convert,
t-5, ultimate TBI mods,TBI spacer,SLP 1 5/8 headers,
3"cat back, 3.42 torsen posi,alston SFC's,Global West LCA relocation brackets, edelbrock STB
rsilver is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2001, 09:16 AM   #17
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Rock Hill, SC
Posts: 1,412
Car: 1999 Pontiac T/A Firehawk
Engine: ***'s Engine
Transmission: T56

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Welp, the latest guess is that they are from a TBI 350 truck. This heard second hand from a guy who knew the person I bought the car from.

Sheesh, who thought this would be so difficult... LOL.
99Hawk120 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2003, 06:11 PM   #18
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Rock Hill, SC
Posts: 1,412
Car: 1999 Pontiac T/A Firehawk
Engine: ***'s Engine
Transmission: T56

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Well, wasn't it a surprise to run across THIS thread while doing a search! I figure I'll post a follow up while I have nothing to do

In case anyone cares, the heads ended up being traced back to an LO5 truck. They're swirl port, but not as bad as some swirl port castings (some sources labeled them as "low swirl"). I couldn't tell you exactly what the combustion chamber CC was, but it was less than a stock 71 350 in a 3/4 ton truck, which is what I ended up bolting them to.
99Hawk120 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2011, 01:13 PM   #19
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 3

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: 10110810 heads? What are they?

I added this on another previous post:


If I may add my two cents here. I am a hobby engine builder. I came across these heads 10110810 about 2 weeks ago for pretty much free (20.00). I also has the same question as to what the heck they were 305 or 350 heads. Here is what I found out after 2 weeks every day of asking around and asking local machine shop in my area (West Texas).

The casting was reused for both 305 and 350. I asked how to tell and the most common answer I got was: if you have them removed measure the intake valve, if they are 305's they will have a 1.84 measurement, and if they are 350's they will have 1.94 measurement. Another way to tell is the "meat" or material between the chambers should be just under 0.5" (half an inch). Well I did just that yesterday afternoon with a new digital caliper I just bought. I got lucky and based on the info I got mine are 350 centerbolt heads. If you cannot remove or do not have your heads removed, sorry. In my area there was two mechanics (not engine builders) that said that sometimes you can tell a 305 casting and 350 casting by the way the casting number is situated on the head. 350 casting is vertical to the sides of the cylinder head. I would not put too much stock in this method but it is something to look at. Hope I made this clear as mud as we say here in these parts.
gilbert011 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2011, 01:13 PM
ThirdGen
1992 Camaro




Paid Advertisement


Reply

Go Back   Third Generation F-Body Message Boards > Tech Boards > Tech / General Engine

Tags
10110810, 14101083, 350, 93, 93up, casting, ccs, gen, geni, heads, intake, motor, number, runner, size, vortec
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

 


1982 Camaro '82 || 1983 Camaro '83 || 1984 Camaro '84 || 1985 Camaro '85 || 1986 Camaro '86 || 1987 Camaro '87 || 1988 Camaro '88 || 1989 Camaro '89 || 1990 Camaro '90 || 1991 Camaro '91 || 1992 Camaro '92


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:24 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright © 1997 - 2012 ThirdGen.org. All rights reserved. No part of this website may be reproduced without the expressed, documented, and written consent of ThirdGen.org's Administrators.

Emails & Contact Details