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Old 04-28-2005, 09:44 AM   #1
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Thermal vacuum switch (TVS) question

Hi guys,

It's been a while since I’ve posted here but every time I run into a problem this board always helps me.

My car is a 1985 Z28 non-computer controlled (Canadian model). Are all TVS the same or are they different. I’m asking this because I need to buy a new one. The one I need is located on the water neck. The ported vacuum line run from the carb to the TVS then go to the distributor (in between somewhere there is a delay valve). Now my problem is that the existing TVS that was on the water neck that I accidentally broke has markings on it stating that one of the port should go to the carb and the other one to the EGR. Now I know this is wrong because the TVS with the vacuum line that goes to the EGR is located on the intake manifold itself. Does all this make sense? Can somebody help me out here?

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Old 04-28-2005, 11:54 AM   #2
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I don't know if this is of any help but here is the emission hose routing...
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Old 04-28-2005, 07:54 PM   #3
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They're usually different. Your dealer parts counter should be able to figure out which one you need, if it's still available.
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Old 04-28-2005, 08:18 PM   #4
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Thanks to Vader for this!

Matches my non CC 85 Z28 perfectly.


All the TVS's are not the same. The EFE TVS lets vac thru only when the engine is cold. EGR when hot ect.
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Old 05-05-2005, 12:11 PM   #5
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Ok here’s the deal. I went to three different auto parts store and called three different GM dealers and I’m out of luck. The part stores need the original valve to cross reference it with the one they have in their books so I called GM. According to them, their book says there is no TVS valve on the water neck except for the EFE and a coolant sensor. I’m not stupid there is two TVS in my water neck and the emission hose routing shows that I should have a total of three TVS’s. Can anybody with the same setup as me go and check there car and tell me the part numbers of those three TVS? The one I need the most is the one on the passenger side on the water neck that connect to the distributor. For now I just routed the hose directly from the carb to the distributor is this fine? Should I just leave it like that and don’t bother getting another one?

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The purpose of the TVS is purely for emissions reduction. There aren't any performance, economy, or longevity issues involved in not having it.
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There aren't any performance, economy, or longevity issues involved in not having it.
Just as there are no issues involved with keeping it, if everything is still in working order and you don't have emissions issues to worry about. As soon as something fails though the whole system can go.
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So you’re saying that I shouldn’t bother getting a new one and just leave it connected directly from the carb to the distributor? Doesn’t it affect the timing somehow since it’s keeping vacuum from going to the distributor before a certain temperature?
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Vacuum advance distributors had vacuum from the first second of running until the late 70's. How many issues came up because of having vacuum immediately for all those years, do you think?

The non-CC systems are pretty simple. This was a band-aid for one short period of operation that was less expensive than a full CC setup. Emissions will be slightly higher while cold, but it will never cause a sniffer failure because the car is fully warmed when you go in for an emissions test. It might be failed on a visual inspection, though.
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Re: Thermal vacuum switch (TVS) question

Ben85Z28 can you take a pic of your water neck and the routing? I have a 84 berlinetta and mine has the TVC on the right side of the water neck and a coolant temp sensor on the left side. My TVS broke and i have no idea how to toute the hoses or if there is a way to bypass the swuitch
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