Go Back   Third Generation F-Body Message Boards > Tech Boards > Tech / General Engine
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?

Tech / General Engine Is your car making a strange sound or won't start? Thinking of adding power with a new combination? Need other technical information or engine specific advice? Don't see another board for your problem? Post it here!

Welcome to ThirdGen.org!
Welcome to ThirdGen.org.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, join the ThirdGen.org community today!


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 08-29-2006, 12:53 AM   #1
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: hawaii
Posts: 15
Car: 92' Camaro
Engine: 350, ripped up, 383 soon
Transmission: 700r4

Classifieds Rating: (0)
nitrous cam for better gas mileage?

I'm deciding on a cam for my 92 camaros 383. I want a hydraulic roller and about 230/236 dur @.050. I found a comp cam p/n 08-432-8 but it has a 110degree LSA. Can I put a nitrous cam with smilar specs but a 113degree LSA and get better gas milage? What else does LSA do?
lilnach is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2006, 01:28 PM   #2
Supreme Member
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Philly, PA
Posts: 5,803

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Overlap is one thing that affects fuel economy. Spreading out the LSA decreases overlap and there's less unburnt air and fuel that could blow straight out the exhaust. But really, if you're talking about mileage, a smaller cam is what you want. Spreading out the LSA generally gives you a wider, less "peaky" powerband, but overall a lower one. It also smooths out the idle. It opens the exhaust sooner, possibly letting the cylinder "blow down" before it's really done giving all of it's energy to the crank. And lastly, it closes the intake valve later, which lowers your dynamic compression (cylinder pressure) and might lower combustion efficiency at low RPMs. But you're changing the basic breathing characteristics of your motor- it's not a change to consider lightly. And frankly, with all the puts and takes, you're talking about a small difference in economy.

If you want to get better bang for the buck, drop your durations by 10* across the board, leaving everything else the same, and you'll probably be a lot happier with the end result.
Damon is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2006, 05:07 PM   #3
Moderator
 
Air_Adam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Saskatoon, SK, Canada
Posts: 9,068
Car: '83 Z28, '07 Charger SRT8
Engine: 454ci, 6.1 Hemi
Transmission: TH350, A5
Axle/Gears: 2.73 posi, 3.06 posi

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Send a message via MSN to Air_Adam
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damon View Post
Overlap is one thing that affects fuel economy. Spreading out the LSA decreases overlap and there's less unburnt air and fuel that could blow straight out the exhaust. But really, if you're talking about mileage, a smaller cam is what you want. Spreading out the LSA generally gives you a wider, less "peaky" powerband, but overall a lower one. It also smooths out the idle. It opens the exhaust sooner, possibly letting the cylinder "blow down" before it's really done giving all of it's energy to the crank. And lastly, it closes the intake valve later, which lowers your dynamic compression (cylinder pressure) and might lower combustion efficiency at low RPMs. But you're changing the basic breathing characteristics of your motor- it's not a change to consider lightly. And frankly, with all the puts and takes, you're talking about a small difference in economy.

If you want to get better bang for the buck, drop your durations by 10* across the board, leaving everything else the same, and you'll probably be a lot happier with the end result.
Air_Adam is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2006, 04:12 AM   #4
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: hawaii
Posts: 15
Car: 92' Camaro
Engine: 350, ripped up, 383 soon
Transmission: 700r4

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Ok, so, how 'bout this-
how do ya'll think the original 110degree comp cam will run?
lilnach is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2006, 11:59 AM   #5
Supreme Member
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Philly, PA
Posts: 5,803

Classifieds Rating: (0)
It'll run like a raped ape if you have half decent heads, intake and exhaust. It won't be great for mileage.
Damon is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2006, 09:01 PM   #6
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: hawaii
Posts: 15
Car: 92' Camaro
Engine: 350, ripped up, 383 soon
Transmission: 700r4

Classifieds Rating: (0)
will it be streetable enough?
driving 10-15 miles to work everyday.
I got afr 195cc street heads
demon 750, eagle stroker forged rotating assembly
edel rpm air-gap intake
lilnach is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2006, 12:36 PM   #7
Supreme Member
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Philly, PA
Posts: 5,803

Classifieds Rating: (0)
It'll be a little grumpy but nothing you can't put up with on a short commute. Mostly you're going to not like it when it's cold. Carbs, fairly large cams and a heat-isolated intake don't make for sparkling drivability on a cold engine. It'll be running super about the time you roll in the parking lot at your job.

If you're running an automatic trans you'll want a higher stall converter than stock, for sure (about 2500 at least, give or take). Not just to let the motor get into it's powerband when you're launching hard off the line but also becuase it takes a lot of the load off the motor at idle in-gear. Otherwise you'll be 2-footing it at every stoplight. A manual trans car wouldn't have to worry about this, obviously, but you'll still find you need to get some RPMs going before you let the clutch out to pull away from a stop.
Damon is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2006, 12:36 PM
ThirdGen
1992 Camaro




Paid Advertisement


Reply

Go Back   Third Generation F-Body Message Boards > Tech Boards > Tech / General Engine

Tags
383, cam, characteristics, gas, lsa, milage, mileage, millage, nitrous, specs, worse
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

 


1982 Camaro '82 || 1983 Camaro '83 || 1984 Camaro '84 || 1985 Camaro '85 || 1986 Camaro '86 || 1987 Camaro '87 || 1988 Camaro '88 || 1989 Camaro '89 || 1990 Camaro '90 || 1991 Camaro '91 || 1992 Camaro '92


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:48 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright © 1997 - 2012 ThirdGen.org. All rights reserved. No part of this website may be reproduced without the expressed, documented, and written consent of ThirdGen.org's Administrators.

Emails & Contact Details