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Old 04-11-2008, 12:37 PM   #1
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Stupid Question - What is this?

I just got my 383 from T&L Engines. This is my first engine build. Theres something on this engine that wasn't on my L98.

This is probably a stupid question..What is it? The engine is a 383/6" rods/internal balance. At least according to the invoice.
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thats the end of your crank shaft.
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Re: Stupid Question - What is this?

Well, yeah.. It just looks different than the L98 somehow. Maybe it has just been that long since I tore it down.
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Re: Stupid Question - What is this?

The reason it looks different is that is a two-piece RMS crankshaft. I believe your original '88 crank was a 1-pc RMS setup. Which had the back end of the crank as a round stub.

If this is true (orig was 1-pc) then a different flywheel or flex-plate will be required. The bolt hole locations are different between the 1-pc & 2-pc cranks.

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Re: Stupid Question - What is this?

That would explain it... dang it. Suggested part #'s for an oil pan and flex plate anyone?

Wait a sec... The casting number on the block is 14093638
14093638...350...87-95...2 or 4...Roller or flat tappet cam, one-piece rear seal (mortec)

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Re: Stupid Question - What is this?

Looks like a one piece RMS block with a 2 piece RMS conversion and crankshaft.

Pre 86ish oil pan with passenger side dipstick

Since it's internally balanced, pre 86ish flexplate for a 350.

When in doubt, contact the builder instead of guessing in case you guess wrong.
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Re: Stupid Question - What is this?

Why would they do that? Any valid reason?
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Re: Stupid Question - What is this?

my engine is the same way, its a roller block with a 2pc rear main conversion. There are more options for the 2pc cranks than 1pc ones. Just give them a call, im sure they will be happy to answer this question for you, I found them very helpful.

for example, i just flipped to the cranks page in my trusty jegs catalog and found 2, 1pc cranks and 23+, 2 pc cranks
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for example, i just flipped to the cranks page in my trusty jegs catalog and found 2, 1pc cranks and 23+, 2 pc cranks
That is what I would consider a valid reason.

I can never get T&L on the phone, lol. I guess they're busy building engines!

I'm in the process of writing a complete review of my transaction with T&L to help answer any questions about them.

Ok, now.. Obviously I will need a new 153tooth flexplate for a 2-piece RMS.

86TA - What did you use for an oil pan?
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They should have said they were using a 2-piece RMS crank. There are plenty of 1-piece RMS 383 crank choices now, unless this is something really wild.

If they didn't specifically say they were sending you an engine with a 2-piece RMS crank, they should provide the flexplate you need.
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They should have said they were using a 2-piece RMS crank. There are plenty of 1-piece RMS 383 crank choices now, unless this is something really wild.

If they didn't specifically say they were sending you an engine with a 2-piece RMS crank, they should provide the flexplate you need.
I guess I am equally guilty of not asking. I asked if it was a roller block. The answer was yes. I left it at that. My stupidity really..

I'll just track down a flexplate. Still not sure about the oil pan.

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Re: Stupid Question - What is this?

Just heard back from T&L. Good news about the oil pan actually.


"The block is a one piece rear main seal, however, we use an adapter on the rear to accept a 2 piece rear seal crank. The adapter is setup to accept the 87 up oil pan so you will be fine there. The flexplate will need to be changed however. We offer a SFI flexplate for $69 plus shipping."
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Re: Stupid Question - What is this?

i ran into the same issues with the flexplate/flywheel I new it was a roller block so i bought a 1 pc flywheel, after the engine arrived i found the 2pc conversion and had to sell/buy a new flywheel. They should probably put this little tidbit of info on their site.
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i ran into the same issues with the flexplate/flywheel I new it was a roller block so i bought a 1 pc flywheel, after the engine arrived i found the 2pc conversion and had to sell/buy a new flywheel. They should probably put this little tidbit of info on their site.
That would be helpful. I'm not upset. It gives me an excuse to read up on flexplates. Tooth count, etc.. It seems we have both 153 and 168 tooth flexplates available for these engines. I'm going to go take a look and see what mine is and then just buy a 2-piece version with the same tooth count. That should be..safe.

I am attaching an image of my expression when I first saw this one piece to two piece rms conversion thing..

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