weeeelllllllllll i got one for you all. i TRIED to check my timing today. got it to top dead center, went from there, advanced it to 12*...haha car wasnt having it, went to 3* not better then TDC but better then 12*... went to -3*(yes i made that up) and omg its better! now ive never heard of that so ideas? o also btw its shutters and jerks/bucks whatever anyone wants to call it, tho all gears, all rpms. just at -6* its the least it does it, but doesnt really have its power like before i fixed my vaccum leaks. umm 1984 camaro 173 cu.in. v6 2 bbl, 5spd non WC T-5, all stock. all help s welcomed and thanked.

So what procedure was used to set the timing?
What is the stock timing specification.
Did you get it up to normal operating temperature before setting the timing?

at first a timing gun, its v belt system. but i retarded it so far a timing gun is useless now.
umm??? your guess is as good as mine, the dumb a55 i got it from had it painted and those stupid sobs took the sticker off, so i dont have any stickers what so ever, none for emissions or even the rpo codes for like paint and what not. not to meation im starting to think the motor was rebuilt.
and yep finally got the high idle down from a whopping 3500, so i thought now it still idles there sometimes.