stahrman0612

Does anyone know if taking out the insulation under the hood will hurt anything? It just seems to me that there would be more room under there for more air circulation, especially right over my AC air compressor that gets super hot.

Doom86

A lot of people will say no it doesn't hurt anything but I will disagree.

If you drive in a climate where it doesn't snow and ice I don't see why not get rid of it.

From my experience if you don't have it in really harsh cold it can cause problems. This is my personal observation mind you but I owned my 86 z28 for probably 4 years before removing the hood insulation and never had a problem in the winter. But after removing it, in the dead of winter it has problems with the windshield wipers freezing (at the arms/joints, not the blades) and building up layers of ice on the windshield starting from the bottom to up while driving. Like I said though only in the harshest of colds does this happen.

It may not sound so bad but 2 winters ago while driving in Friday rush-hour traffic during a snow storm my windshield completely iced over just seconds after the wipers froze still. So as if driving a camaro in a snow storm isn't bad enough now I can't see out the front window in thick traffic, can't see to pull over even. Yeah, that was fun. Luckily for me everyone had on their lights, I could still see that and made it home in one piece.

stahrman0612

So, is the purpose of the insulation to keep the extreme heat from melting your paint on the hood?

Stephen

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Every vehicle I've ever owned, 3rd gen or not.....Steel hood or fiberglass hood.....I've pulled the insulation off right after buying the car (or putting on a fiberglass hood) or even getting a brand new paint job. And I've never once had a paint problem on OEM or aftermarket paints. And all here in central Texas, where it was 104 last Saturday at the TGO Statewide Gathering.

I've also always pulled the rubber strip off the back of the underside of the hood that seals to the firewall, to provide another exit for the underhood engine heat to get out.

Atilla the Fun

I've always removed all the underhood insulation the day of getting each car, and I never once stopped to consider if it was a problem in the winter. I never had my wipers freeze, but I have had issues with keeping the windshields clear. I guess it could make some difference.

stahrman0612

I have heard of people removing that strip above the firewall. Does water get down into the engine compartment? Is there any problems it causes by not having it??? I think I might pull mine tomorrow?????

Stephen

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If water does, it has never caused a problem on any of my cars. I guess with bad/bare wiring it could.

Doom86

Even with the problems I've had I wouldn't put it back. It only happens when it is like below 0 and snowing which is like a week or two a year around here and most of the time I'm not driving. But it is something to keep in mind though, that could have ended really nasty.

One thing that is nice about it is you can here your massive secondaries go "Bwaaa" on your Qjet better.. gotta love that.

Gumby

Unless its clean & new, its just a fire hazzard, it can't catch fire ,the 20+ years of dirt n grime that build up in it makes it so. Plus it just makes for a dirty back.

Never had any problem in the cold, dunno where that myth is from and no the paint don't give a crap either.

Doom86

So my past experience is a myth? It must have been something else causing the freezing air flowing under my hood to freeze the wiper levers under the bezel and progressively cover my windshield in ice from the hood up while driving on the highway.

The way our cars are designed aerodynamically speaking that is probably one of the least areas besides the rear bumper where air is hitting in factory trim. Remove the hood liner and rubber and that's changed completely, and that's why we do it, to let air out. Well when that air is sub zero and it's snowing you don't think it could freeze?

Gumby

Your hood to cowl seal was missing then,

Never had any such thing happen and we get nasty winters here in Ohio.

Atilla the Fun

I only remove it to reduce front-end weight.

TheMonster

I do the exact same things when I bought both of my thirdgens. It has never caused me a problem on my '83 Z daily driver. Like stephen said, if you have bad wires then it could cause a problem, but no problem so far.

Scorpner

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I think the insulation and rubber seal have more to do with what is often referred to as the appearance of quality. In some of the other threads where people complain about rattles and such, I feel that both of these are there to reduce noise and stabilize the hood. It may have also helped in the winter months as far as keeping heat in and the snow from melting and refreezing on the hood.

I actually added the rubber strip on mine because I was tired of watching it rattle around while I was driving. I didn't have any heat issues since it's a stock V6. lol

Gumby

The reason folks remove the hood to cowl seal is they think it will give them cowl effect cooling like how the intake for nascar is back there, taking advantage of the low pressure area. But its not a good idea in the winter.

Atilla the Fun

Seems to me that removing the seal would help cooling all summer, and keep the windshield clearer all winter.

Gumby

Well if you or anyone else likes it that way Ill gladly take your cowl to hood rubber seal if in good shape.

el_muerte

When I removed my insulation, the only difference I noticed (besides not getting my head dirty every time I was under the hood) was that light rain would steam off the hood. It was actually kinda cool.

Chainshot

On some cars, that hood to cowl seal helps keep heat and smells out of the interior. I think I would keep it. What hurts you paint are UV rays. Remember, most paint is heat cured anyway.

stahrman0612

Well thanks for all the advice!!! I ended up taking the old dirty, grimy, grease stained insulation off and painted the underside of the hood. Looks very good now. I left the rubber strip on the hood because I'm just not sure about any real benefits it has taking it off, I don't have any overheating problems and don't like the idea of rain maybe getting down into my wiring.

UNCLE TOM

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keep the rear seal . this subject has been thrashed in the past . the blanket under the hood is for sound . ( if i have a sound under the hood i want to hear it ) mine has been removed on all my cars . the seal on the rear of the hood keeps fumes/smells from engine from getting into A/C system in stop and go traffic . the A/C picks up outside air from the base of windsheild . ( notice the screen thing at the base of the hood & wiper arm area ) people have said if you have fumes you have a leak of some kind . well if they an engine you can eat off O.K. . if you are a normal person , you have some dirt under the hood that could/will give you fumes/smell . removal of the seal will allow A/C to pick them up and send them into car . enough said , if you remove seal dont throw it away . you will want to re-install it later . good luck .

Gumby

Ding Ding Ding we have a winner, the fresh air vent for the HVAC is right there.......

Atilla the Fun

I've never removed the seal, because getting moisture in the dizzy is just begging for a costly and inconvenient problem. Mine's dry-rotted, but I'd bet "A&M Soffseal" can provide a nice new replacement. If not them, then "Metro".

Scorpner

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I actually found the seal for mine on a junk yard hood, some of them are in really good condition. Same goes for the rear hatch seal BTW.



Good info about the A/C intake. I didn't know that.

Gumby

Just note set on MAX AC on all GM cars the fresh air vent is closed.
You can also put it on max ac but put the temp slider on hot, and its like max heat as the fresh air vent is closed anytime on max ac, temp setting don't matter.

Stevolwevol

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I reluctantly removed the insulation on my IROC , and nothing bad happened. No blistering of paint, no extra noise, and I wouldn't even think about driving it in the snow and ice.

Chrome on Rust

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Its always nice to come across a thread with helpful info like this one.

wish i never took my seal off. To the junk yard i go.