how much rust is too much
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how much rust is too much
Hi guys ,
I recently purchased a 83 Z28 as a project for my son and I . it is a crossfire car with the LU5 .This car will never see track time , just going to be something fun to drive to local cruise ins and car shows.I am going for a pro touring look but want it to sound nasty with a little cam lope. I have removed the cross fire stuff and replaced it with a weiand intake and a holley 600cfm. for simplicity i went with a mechanical pump . i knew elec pump was bad thats why the car was parked for the last 5 years. anyway,, pump is on and car runs good sucking gas from the gas can. but since i cant drive it that way i decided to check the tank and this is what i found inside....
if i could get my big hands down in that hole i could scoop handfuls of rust off bottom!! so its time to ask for your opinon on a new tank.. go back with a factory style tank, or just mount a fuel cell in bottom of trunk and box it in with a sealed lid. (also is there a section to start a build thread ? )
I recently purchased a 83 Z28 as a project for my son and I . it is a crossfire car with the LU5 .This car will never see track time , just going to be something fun to drive to local cruise ins and car shows.I am going for a pro touring look but want it to sound nasty with a little cam lope. I have removed the cross fire stuff and replaced it with a weiand intake and a holley 600cfm. for simplicity i went with a mechanical pump . i knew elec pump was bad thats why the car was parked for the last 5 years. anyway,, pump is on and car runs good sucking gas from the gas can. but since i cant drive it that way i decided to check the tank and this is what i found inside....
if i could get my big hands down in that hole i could scoop handfuls of rust off bottom!! so its time to ask for your opinon on a new tank.. go back with a factory style tank, or just mount a fuel cell in bottom of trunk and box it in with a sealed lid. (also is there a section to start a build thread ? )
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Re: how much rust is too much
MT...Welcome!
You can get a new tank from RockAuto.com for between 120-170 bucks and bolt it right in.
Saves the hassle with all the mods.
You can get a new tank from RockAuto.com for between 120-170 bucks and bolt it right in.
Saves the hassle with all the mods.
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Re: how much rust is too much
yeah,and receive a spectra brand tank . that others have had a hard time with. IMHO a parts yard tank and a new carb sending unit is the way to avoid all that "don't fit right" stuff.
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Thanks for the responses . I have read a few posts that say the new tanks have to be modified, and some need new straps. I don't mind doing some work if it saves some cash. My biggest problem around here is the pull a part yards puncture the gas tanks, and if I find one I have to get it out without jacking up the car.
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Thanks for the responses . I have read a few posts that say the new tanks have to be modified, and some need new straps. I don't mind doing some work if it saves some cash. My biggest problem around here is the pull a part yards puncture the gas tanks, and if I find one I have to get it out without jacking up the car.
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Re: how much rust is too much
If I find a tank at the salvage yard would it be possible to remove tank by cutting trunk floor with a cordless sawzall ? Or is it all thin enough to use good tin snips? And pull tank out of the hatch?
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You'd have to disconnect the filler neck and even then I'm not sure you could cut enough away to make room. Are the cars at your yard not sitting up on blocks where you can get under them? It's fairly simple to remove when you don't really have to worry about putting the car back together afterwards haha
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Have a radiator shop take a look at it, I've had them boil out tanks for me that I couldn't get clean enough..last one (about 6 months ago) ran me 130 to clean and seal it.
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Re: how much rust is too much
thats what i did with the tank still in the car had it steamed then i let it air dry right on the spot put gas back in and drove off
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There's no way this tank could be cleaned still in the car. I'm going to take the pressure washer to it tomorrow, and then use some muratic acid on it to get the funk out. Then I'll see how the rust situation is and seal it from the inside. Good thing is It doesn't leak, it still had almost 10 gal of putrid gas in it. Gas that had been sitting for 5 years ! I'm hoping it can be saved , it's worth a try and cheaper than a new tank.
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Re: how much rust is too much
There's no way this tank could be cleaned still in the car. I'm going to take the pressure washer to it tomorrow, and then use some muratic acid on it to get the funk out. Then I'll see how the rust situation is and seal it from the inside. Good thing is It doesn't leak, it still had almost 10 gal of putrid gas in it. Gas that had been sitting for 5 years ! I'm hoping it can be saved , it's worth a try and cheaper than a new tank.
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theres also the epoxy tank repair.
http://www.caswellplating.com/restor...nk-sealer.html
are you planning on modding the pickup where the electric fuel pump was? i would while you have it apart.
http://www.caswellplating.com/restor...nk-sealer.html
are you planning on modding the pickup where the electric fuel pump was? i would while you have it apart.
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Re: how much rust is too much
Tried the boiling out/tank sealer treatment many yrs ago on a tank that was nowhere near as bad as yours. Didnt last long and started having problems with the filter clogging and needles/seats getting bunged up.
New tank, only way to go,one less thing to strand you when youre out playing.
New tank, only way to go,one less thing to strand you when youre out playing.
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Re: how much rust is too much
Tried the boiling out/tank sealer treatment many yrs ago on a tank that was nowhere near as bad as yours. Didnt last long and started having problems with the filter clogging and needles/seats getting bunged up.
New tank, only way to go,one less thing to strand you when youre out playing.
New tank, only way to go,one less thing to strand you when youre out playing.
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Re: how much rust is too much
I haven't used rocks, but I have used a big handful of sheet metal screws and vinegar to clean the tank on my 64 C10.
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Re: how much rust is too much
Well the acid soak did the trick. It's all clean shiny metal again inside. Neutralized, triple rinsed, sucked up all water and junk with shop vac. Turns out no rust in tank at all.
Now if I could just get it to go back in.. it lacks about half an inch from getting bolts back in straps.
Ohhh,, I found my build sheet .. it was on top of gas tank. I can't read all of it .
Now if I could just get it to go back in.. it lacks about half an inch from getting bolts back in straps.
Ohhh,, I found my build sheet .. it was on top of gas tank. I can't read all of it .
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You may want to consider a tank sealer. The acid will have eaten off the galvanizing as well as the rust. It is now unprotected and any moisture will cause it to rust again.
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If your still having issues getting the tank set in, I found that it needs to be a dead center between the wells, i/e it doesn't want to "slide" up one side and align, then should fit right up.
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