K, I did this on purpose because you people rag on the 305 5spd so bad so I'm gonna post a kill from last year. I'm heading east on 95th street in my town of Oak Lawn when I see in the distance a Mustang with fog lights that are frowned (cobras front frascia), hes heading south and im far in the left lane. He drives past and sees me revs it up and thats my invitation. I just had got my new clutch in and wasnt supposed to beat on it for another 50 miles or so (drove 450 miles in like 2 days) but i thought i would give it a try. Being the only person around at about 2am on the street i crack a right handed turn from the far left lane kicking her out sideways catching up to him. I finally get up to him and he doesnt have the stock exhaust, and i dont think he was stock at all actually, by what he did later in the story. i pop it into 2nd next to him and he goes low gear to, we both got em chirped at about 35mph going low gear, so he gives me the go (i was alone he had one riding shot gun) and i nail it, he got on it and spun a tad and i jumped 2-3 on him. his 2nd gear wasnt to quick (4.6's = no torque) but he started to come closer, i hit 3rd and he was playing catchup to me, he started to pull on me (didnt spend over $20k for my car to ALMOST beat a 305) which i expected but i kept it to 1/2 car before we killed it. if u think im running 96 mph traps and stock cobras are running 98-99mph thats not bad, he started to catch up but u gotta learn how to drive your car, this isnt perfect world cuz if it was id have a 350 not a 305. i know i beat him fair and square cuz he flicked me off and turned left. 350s > 305s but with 3.42 gearing a 5spd and a 230hp/300lbs torque runs low - mid 14s stock is not bad. start the flames please because i have 2 slips of racing my buddies stock cobra and once beating him hard (.587 reaction time) and once by losing by 1/2 a car (traction gave out on me). And FYI LT1s are not quick with autos at all. they are dawgs, the one i raced took me off the line but i got sideways going into 2nd and cauhgt up to a lead about 1/2 car to a car and we stayed even. off the line the 350s torque owns our weak 300 lbs ft, but the horsies aint bad especially with our gearing. gm did great job on G92 305s, and everyone whose driven my car has been surprised. please start the flames for a list of roughly cars ive beat ill show u. new eclipse (wannabe f&tf) 88-93 fox bodies (some won some lost) 2 96-98 Cobras (beat em both but not by much) 1 93-97 LT1 auto (good and close race) 2 99-01 GT auto (one i beat by 1/2 a car from 0-75mph and the other i beat by 1-2 car lengths from 100mph to about 130mph) 1 87 350 iroc (good close race) 1 89 formula 350 (friends car, put 2 on him after 3rd) btw does my car have a speed limiter??? if it does i think its taken off...i seriously did 130mph against that mustang but i think the ram air helped going that fast i think at about 90mph it starts to pick up and noticeable. now ive gotten my arse handed to me PLENTY of times but 305 G92s got balls, as for potential on reaching low 13s...well thats a diff story = P

whoever said we rag on 305 5 speeds? G92 cars are pretty much just as fast as an L98 auto. And as far as beating newer cobras that's kinda old hat but a good kill nonetheless. I tried to keep up with two 98's in my lincoln last week and stayed within 4 lengths of them while they were racing. Some new cobras are just plain out slow. Then you've got the smart cobra drivers who throw some gears in their 01+ cars and are turning high 12's.

I bet a 94-98 4.6GT the other day, not because my car is faster but because I was a better driver 305's IMO are hardly ragged on, on this site but like on camaroz28.com and other sites:nono: they will rag me to death.

Believe me, no one rags on the 305/5 spd G92 option. It's the L03s and LG4s and some LB9s that get ragged on.

Amen!!!!(i have an LG4)

Whats wrong with the 305s??? I personally don't mind them and wouldn't rag on them!! But I also wouldn't fear one if I lined up against it!!

Well put.

The 305 isn't a bad engine at all. I remember someone on here that was putting out 500hp with a procharger on his 305. I cant remember who it was but I think it was a white IROC. Sweet car! And nice kill! It could have been a fake Cobra though. Alot of the 94-98 Mustang guys get Cobra fronts. They look more agressive (sp). Anyways Cobra or not nice kill. :lala:

Willie runs either low 12 or high 11s with his 305.

Hey you think that the 305 gets ragged, I get all sorts of shi* when I tell people I'm running a 307 in our 84 cutlass

84 Cutlass supreme
307(buick riviera motor ex calif. emission car) with holley 650
ported stock intake
ported stock heads,3 angle valve job
accel ingnition
1 5/8 custom longtubes
straight pipes
4.10 rear posi
turbo 350 tranny (transgo inside )
aluminum driveshaft
extensive weight loss plan
1/8 9.22 76mph
(MOM'S CAR!!!! )

To keep this 3rd gen related, my brother raced me (me in my IROC )and stayed pretty close, I started pulling after I hit the end of 2nd gear though

Are you sure it wasn't a fake cobra i.e. badges and hood?
I dont think my 11.5:1 406 would take a newer cobra .

If you're built 406 can't take a newer cobra that's pretty sad. There's a guy locally with a 406 in his 89 formula and he runs low 11's to high 10's on motor depending on traction and 9's on N20. I haven't seen any stock cobra's running even low 12's.

I havent raced a cobra yet . But yes that would be sad.

My 406 isn't THAT built.

Well even a mildly built one should take you 12's in a thirdgen. That's alot of power and torque.

I was hopeing for high 12's .
Im putting it in my '75 the desk top dyno (for whatever its worth says im only making 417 hp@5500 and 417 ftlbs@4500 (what gives )Ive got 11.5:1 compression unported heads w/ 2.02 and 1.60 valves a cam that specs out at .488" in, .510" ex lift and 308* in, 318* ex adv. duration .The intake is a wiend tunnel ram w/2 600 cfm carters and 1/34" hedders. the trans is a th350 w/ a 2500 stal speed converter and the rear is a 4.11 posi .Its also got traction bars and welded in frame connectors.
Do you think I can run high 12's with such a heavy car and only 400 hp?

It's probably possible to hit high 12's if you get traction. Get some worked heads on that motor and add a shot of the juice and you'll be going somewhere for sure. I wish I had a 400 small block to put in my IROC

No stock Cobras wont pull a high 12. I think its almost impossible unless its a freak car. With 4.10 gears its possible but if he is bone stock I don't think you have to worry about too much with that engine you have.

There are cobra's out there bone stock that will pull a high 12. Not a 99 since they were factory freaks and did not perform as advertised but a 01' car will. Will the average person hit a high 12? No. Will the average LS1 driver hit a high 12? No. So it's all got to do with the person behind the wheel. With 4.56's in a newer cobra you're looking at some mid-low 12's. That's the thing with the new cobra's if you're gonna use it for 1/4 mile racing you can't be afraid of steep gears in that DOHC car that revs to the moon. Proper gearing and getting traction with the independent suspension is key to those cars posting some good times. If you don't believe me ask Nic I can't speak for him but i'm sure he would agree.

The 2001 are the same as the fixed 99's. And the factory screw up thing is over. 96% of the 99 Cobra's have gone through the recall and I'm sure that the other % are ones that have wrecked.

And a stock 99 or 01 Cobra with 4.56s will not pull a mid to low 12.

What's so bad about the Lo3??

I raced a L98 and a lt1 and they
had about the same pull on me..
aprox 3-4 car lengths.. granted.. thats
a loss.. but I expected it considering my hp rating.. and I do have a ton of weight in my car with the stereo.. so I dont
think the Lo3 is all that bad.. I bet if it had better heads and cam, it would be a pretty descent performer for what it is.. I dont plan on keeping the motor.. but I am just saying.. it's not that bad.

Then how come bob cosby runs 11's in his 99' cobra which has exhaust,CAI,pulleys a chip and 4.56's? If you don't know what you're talking about don't come out and say "a stock cobra with 4.56 gears won't run a low-mid 12".

A stock cobra with its purely top end motor should easily run mid twelves with just 4.56's being the only modification .
This is what Im talking about when I say I wouldn't be to sure about my 406.

Not every year of Cobra's are the
same.. I heard the earlier year Cobras
weren't as fast.

I've got some 230cc Iron eagles but I think they're to large for A mild 406.(Ild like to build a high reving 355 or 377 to toss thease on to)
I dont think the bottom end could handle n2o ,I do have 4 bolt mains but the rods are stock they've been checked and have new bolts but they're still stock rods ,and my piston are domed cast claimers.

Thats not stock now is it? DA

i think what hes trying to sat monkie is that is a cobra with those few mods can hit 11's,then a stock cobra sure as hell can do it.you cant tell me an exhaust,CAI,pulleys,and a chip(and we all know that pulleys and a chip add no more than 20hp MAX),would take 1 second off of a stock cobras times with the same 4.56 gears.more bull from the know-it-all monkie

I have an 91 RS L03 and the speed limiter is between 125-140MPH. I'm not sure where exactly it kicks in because my speedo only goes to 115MPH.

We are talking about stock car with gears. Not a car with exhaust, pulleys, chip, suspension, etc and then gears. Exhaust adds alot to the Cobra especially a X pipe. Pulleys also add alot to a Cobra. And Bob also has his timing set. That is around 30hp if not more right there and then the gears on top of that. You guys....lol (shaking head)

just curious but how in the hell do you set the timing on a DIS? Enlighten me monkie. just some more from you buddy. Pulleys and an x-pipe add alot to a cobra? How about going from 3.xx gears to 4.56's. You have no idea what the hell you're talking about. So here's to you monkie

Shut the fu(k up

Steeda 4.6L Timing Adjuster 1996-2002 4.6 Mustangs (GT & COBRA)

I didn't know they sold aftermarket timing adjusters for the cobra's or GT's. You still have no idea what the hell you're talking about though. And telling me to shut the **** up over in the internet? what a loser... The legitimate mustang guys on this board don't even like you nevermind the f-body owners. Shouldn't that tell you something.

Really? No one on Thirdgen.org likes me? BOOO HOOO. Cry me a river. You didn't know that they made timing adjusters? Hmmm sounds like to me that you don't know everything. Cobra killer my ***. You will need a lot more than a 13.8 to kill any Cobra.

any Cobra up to (but not including) 2001 will get spanked by Cobrakiller's car. most cant get out of the low-mid 14s. they didnt break 13s on a regular basis until they came out with their 320hp version. if you looked closer at Cobrakillers time, you will see his 104mph trap speed. thats good for low 13s my friend

Dont worry Monkie!! Some of us like you!!! lol

(banging head on desk)

13.8@104 would equal a low 13 with some traction. And up until 01' they didn't have any cobras that were going to come close to that. Your 99' stock would have been easy pickings for my IROC a few months back. But ohhh wait..I wouldn't want to run you cause when you pulled the 120mph ***** fly by you'd crack my hatch glass with that thunderous exhaust..:sillylol: :sillylol:

maybe all that banging will clear your head

Up until 01 they didn't have any cobras that would come close to that? Then tell me exactly what made the 2001 year different from the 99 year? And exactly what made the 98 year different from the 99 year? I wanna see if you actually know what you're talking about. And I will be seeing how long it takes you to reply cause you are still on the board.

You keep telling yourself that.

Time is up buddy, you have no idea. In 96-98 the cobras had the 4.6L DOHC that put out 305hp. About 277rwhp. In 99 they had a mistake that the made 320hp but it never made that. Then they recalled all the Cobra's and if you cobra didn't make 280rwhp then they had to keep fixing it until it did. In 2001 it was the same car as in 99. So to answer what you said....no, you couldn't beat a 96-01 Cobra. Sorry, try again. They pull a mid 13 stock. And give it gears and it pulls a low 13.

Well let's see 98 had 305 HP and you'd be lucky to see one hitting a high 13 with a good driver bone stock. A 99' well as you should know did not live up to it's expectations which is why there was no cobra in 00' to work out the bugs. A 01' car is advertised at 320HP and with a good driver will run 13's. Have I ever seen one stock go past a high 13 at the track? No. Have I ever seen a stock 94-98 cobra hit a 13. Hell no. Can it be done? Sure. Have you ever been to the track? Ever Witnessed some of the stuff you read online in person?

Oh and Cobrakiller you were on this board the whole time.

uhh you gave me 5 mins and I repsonded with exactly what you just said. Except your times are out somewhere in dreamland.

Yup I go to the 1/8th mile every thurs and sat. I see cobras running all day. 96-98 Cobra usually pull a 9.0 and I have seen a stock red 99 Cobra pull a 8.7

wait i was wrong you gave me 6 minutes..

I said time was up, I waited and still got it in before you. Thanks for playing and PLEASE, do come back.

Well since you like to play games..here you've got 5 minutes to prove that you've got a real cobra..ready..go ohh wait i'll post your reply right now.."i don't have to prove anything to you guys cause i cracked my friend's hatch glass with my O/R x-pipe and that's proof enough" bring on the BS.

You got me I dont own a Cobra. *sigh* maybe I can go out and buy one in 5 mins. :sillylol: