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A friend of mine drives an 86 camaro with the 2.8 and it's an auto. Anyways, my other friend drives an 83 Buick Regal, with a 3.8 (NOT A TURBO).
The guy with the Buick wants to race, he thinks on account of his extra 1.0L of displacement he will smoke the camaro. I'm not so sure.
Does anyone know what kind of power the N/A 3.8 makes. Who should win? (I know it will be a slow race, but It'll be funny)
Bizarre how in '83, a 2.8 made 112 hp, 130 if HO...and the 3.8 only had 110 hp. And the 4.2 had 125...
Yes, sadly the Buick should not be very fast at all. Could be a cool car though.
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My cousin had a 1983 Buick Regal 3.8, non-turbo and a 1984 Firebird S/E 2.8. At the same time. Although we never raced them (he didn't have his liscense yet) I would say the Bird pulled harder. The Regal was just too much of a family car. The 2.8 should win!
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1989 Mustang LX 5.0L: Bolt-ons.
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13.8 @ 99 in the 1/4.
1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee LTD: stock. Car-stats says 15.4 in the 1/4.
I don't know about the torque of the Camaro, but the Regal has 190 ft/lbs. It doesn't matter though. Those cars are SO SLOW. My friend has one and the rev limiter kicks in at 75mph. I don't know if all Regals had this, but it takes long enough to get there! Camaro hands down.
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Originally posted by Matt86t/a I don't know about the torque of the Camaro, but the Regal has 190 ft/lbs. It doesn't matter though. Those cars are SO SLOW. My friend has one and the rev limiter kicks in at 75mph. I don't know if all Regals had this, but it takes long enough to get there! Camaro hands down.
~Matt
No rev limiter needed on the old 2bbl. 3.8, as they have no top end anyway.
110 hp@3800 rpm
190 ft.lbs.@1600 rpm
Just enough to get the car in motion, but that's about it.
The 3.8 powered Cutlass & Regal are good for about high 17's - low 18's in the 1/4 mile. 2.8 3rd gens are much quicker than that. My old '83 3.8 Cutlass couldn't get out of it's own way!
) of any car I have ever been in. 
