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my friend today pulled up to school with his new fiero his daddy bought him. It is around the late 80's and is manual.. He just put in a 2.8 v6 into his car and wants to race me. he also has dual exhaust and headers. He told me that his car would kill mine and has 200hp! which i think is
he said that he can get 13's in the 1/4 mile. and has beat many z28's. well his car probably weighs nothing but how fast could it really be?
i will race him no matter what but i want to know what to expect....
(i need to install my headers soon also)
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stock 2.8s in Fieros had 140hp i think. id say they ran somewhere in the mid 15s. ive never seen one run at the track, so im not sure what a modded one would run
Fieros are light, but not that light, not my buddy, but i know him, said before he put the LT1 in his, it weighed around 2400Lbs...its got a 50/50 weight distro, thats what helps them move...
Dont quote me on that either, going off others people info...
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Fairway Metallic Green (only 223 made)
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92 Z28 350 TPI 700R4
Hardtop all options but leather (56,000 miles)
92 RS 305TBI 700R4
224,000+ Miles, Still Running Strong
Most fiero's, even the GT's wont hold with a 350 TPI Fbody, BUT they are insanly fast with excellent weight distrobution. Plus there is the Aftermarket for these cars. Its possible to stuff a 350 TPI into one of those cars, you do that and you can kiss your tail good bye. The only thing you'll see is the Fiero's tail lights.
The Fiero is the car that Pontiac should have KEPT producing. But then again, nothing is allowed to be faster than the almighty vette. The original fiero kept up with the vette of its day in the twisty's. Never mind the lack of power, but its handling left almost every car but the vette in the dust. I've got some pics of the prototype fiero's before it was scrapped. Simply beautiful.
Head to www.V8archie.com for some info on V8 fiero's. A v8 fiero should weigh in at about 2700lbs dry with a v8.
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yea i agree you dont really knwo waht it has...it may have a 2.8 but what baout a 3.4 or 3.8...either one and the damn thing would move...put a 350 in that and its a whole new ball game
Even if it is a stock 2.8, you're going to have a tough time with it. I imagine your mods put you in the low-mid 15's which is about what a v-6 Fiero ran stock. Of course if he can't drive....
A friend of mine has a 2.8 V6 AT Fiero with an NX nitrous system, exhaust, computer tuning, and little else, and it runs 12.9s! Granted, that is with a LOT of nitrous for a stock motor.They typically weigh in at around 26-2700 lbs, at least for a V6 AT GT.
Too bad he didn't have the four-banger fiero, if so you'd probably take him up top, but I doubt you'll take the v-6, they are pretty fast. Maybe if you had TPI you would have a better shot, but those cars can move!
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If the car is pushing 200hp, it's no longer a 2.8. The engine has most likely been replaced with a 3.1. Which is just a 2.8 bored and stoked. I'm sorry to say but your not going to beat it. Now the other side of it, he just might be BS'ing and if so, you could problably take him. It's possible he's using a but dyno to give you those numbers. If so, It will be a close race.
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Thought I'd add this video for you Fiero lovers. Its a V8 Fiero in the 1/4 mile against a import. Probably somewhere around 12 to 13 seconds. Can't remember the exact time@mph.
Originally posted by CraZ-28 If the car is pushing 200hp, it's no longer a 2.8. The engine has most likely been replaced with a 3.1. Which is just a 2.8 bored and stoked.
The problem is how do you know for sure it's a 2.8? Like mentioned earlier, no 2.8 pushed 200hp without some help. If this thing is stroked, it will look exactly the same.
I used to have a 86' 2.8L Fiero SE. I once raced a friend who had a 84' Berlinetta Camaro, I totally wasted him. Mine was not modded and neither was his. Since your Camaro is much better than my friend was and his Fiero is modded, I'd say you might have your hands full.
Its entirely possible for that Fiero in the video to be running 13's. Take a stop watch and time it, the video ends at around 14 seconds, the fiero finishes teh quarter before the video is up. And the fact that it has a V8, now I don't know the horse power of that V8, its displacement, or anything else, but I do know how to time a race with a stop watch.
Take into account that you have about 1 second before the race starts in the video and its a pretty good guess that the fiero will run 13's, and possibly 12's.
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fastest stock fiero was the 1985 GT with the 4spd tranny. high 15's stock out of the 2.8 v6.
The mid 90's 3.4 camaro motor can be put into a fiero (see http://www.thefierofactory.com/34.htm) and still look TOTALLY stock as it uses all the stock fiero hardware (intake etc. etc.) I suspect that will pack a nice little high-14 second suprise, maybe better with a few mods.
Oh yeah. the 3800SC swap has been done (many times) as well. If a grand prix GTP can do upper 14's with that motor, I wonder what a fiero (at almost 1000 lbs less weight) can do with it?
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L98/G80/G92/J65
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* 14.46 @ 93.36mph, 1.98 60' 7/5/02 (stock)
* 14.89 @ 96.76mph, 2.51 60' 7/7/04 (T56, AS&M SS runners, accel intake)
...guess I need to work on that rear suspension! 1971 RS
406/4spd...a work in progress..
in the 13's @ 107mph without a posi, it's a start.
If i ever got one of these fieros it would be getting either a 350 or a cadilac northstar engine in it. with nitrous. That thing would be gone and it would kill anything around here
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1977 Trans Am S/E. Pontiac 400 th-350, with a 2.41 posi drum rearend.(Completley stock, and price is increasing daily)
Before I bought my GTA I was lookind for cars and a Fiero was on that list. One of the Fiero GT's I drove had the v8 conversion in it. It used a TPI 350 out of a Camaro Z28 that had been totaled, saw pics of it. He had pics of it during the install and everything. Was put together really nice, sadly it was slightly above my price, and that was after negotiating. I backed off, I wasn't upset about it. That car was deffinitely worth the money, it was just more money than I could afford to spend.
I was able to test drive it, and i can tell you that a V8 fiero will push you back in your seat so hard that you'll think your in a car with MUCH more power than the 235hp TPI. Didn't ask about weight, but a V8 conversion usually brings a fiero up to about 2700lbs to 2800lbs depending on the components used.
Of course, then I went and bought my GTA which turned out to have a cracked block :*( At least I only payed $1000 for my GTA.
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I had a stock 84 with the 2.8 and didnt have it long, but it was pretty quick. It only cost me $20. I drove it till the motor blew up then used the head light motor to fix my tran am. Got my moneys worth I guess. That had to be one of the best cars for doing dougnuts that I have ever driven lol.