Who would win? I am thinking the turbocharged 2.2 in the Dodge can beat out the NAWWWSED Supra in F&F. The weird thing is that ricers don't use NOS, they ussually use Zex.

Well, that Supra is supposed to be a 10 second car.

And the Wraith can dissappear and reappear, and I don't think that is VTEC under that hood.

I say the wraith just because it looks cooler. ^_^ Always loved the look of that car. I think there is still a company that produces it for like 220,000 or something. But thats based on old info that i read off the net. Called the PPG 2 I think...

They probably don't produce it anymore.

Is this a StarCraft reference?

im willing to bet it is.

A family in PA makes kit cars of the wraith. just the body and they drop an unknown engine into it.
only 70,000. Not too bad. But the original from the movie is priceless. i believe it was a pace car also.
--Dan

What is Starcraft?

Oh. I guess not.

StarCraft is a computer game by Blizzard software. It rocks.

In the game, Wraiths can "cloak" or disappear, that's why I thought you were referring to it.

Here's what a "Wraith" from StarCraft would look like if it were in the Fast & The Furious.

lol, I should probably get some work done....

http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/thewraith/Turbo.html
is that the car?

That is the car. It had a 442 HP 4 cylinder dual turbo pushing 23 lbs of boost. One mean *** car. The thing only weighed about 1300 lbs. Top speed of 194MPH.

--Dan

I didn't know anybody else besides me had even seen that movie...classic 80's schlock! Gotta love it!

the Wraith is one hell of a movie, i have seen that about five times...

It has a corvette, a thirdgen camaro with a supercharger!

its a real great movie, that dodge is beast though, the engine looked like lightning/voltage arching!! cant mess with that...

i think the turbo interceptor!!

I can see it now...

After giving two shots of NNNNAAAAAAWWWWWWSSSSSS the Turbo interceptor takes the Supra for a walk.

Not to be out-done, Vin Schnitzel gives two more shots as he's rounding the corner of the mountain... and there is when the Wraith magically reappears.... Diesel crashes into a bazillion fiberglass and aluminum body kit pieces.... along with green flames from the NNNNNNAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWSSSSSS and the American public is spared from any F&F sequels

i remember that movie now. charlie sheen right?

THey could have made that a good racing movie. It would have had the real flavor of street racing, not just hooking up N2O to anything with wheels to make it 1 sec faster (or 5 secs faster like the ricers think).

They had real american muscle. They even had the Dodge Daytona R/T in that movie as a good way to chowcase it. I guess that's the perks of making the Wraith Car.

But you have to admit. Dodges are good performance cars. They had the Turbo Interceptor, and the Charger (F&F). Not to mention the slew of Hemi engines.

Doidge should wake the hell up and mut some more street muscle to the public. And I know they have the viper, but c'mon, make an affoardable platform. Chevy had the camaro under the Corvette platform. What will be under the viper.

--Dan
(Waiting for the dodge version of the Mustang Killer)

Hey, I read in Hot Rod (pg. 62 / Nov. '02) that Chrysler was putting the new 5.7 Hemi in the "300", which is a concept car. So, maybe soon the Viper won't be it's only RWD with power.

what ever happened to the charger they were gonna come out with?

i've always thought that thing (wraith) was a fiero with a kit..
anyways..
i know the FnF is a joke, but do you really belive a supra can't hit 10 sec with 10G in it?
that's not counting the body/paint/stickers they put on it, of course..
then add nitrous... O.o
japanese cars i respect
Supra, RX-7, NSX, 300Zx...

wouldn't you like to have a 93 supra TT?

Mmmmnn.....'93 Supra TT......PPG Turbo Intercepter.....I think I'm in heaven. WAIT! I need my 3rdgen fix! Gotta have a TransAm!

I love the sound that they put in for the Turbo Interceptor in the movie "Wraith". As for the gentleman who wondered if it was a pace car. Yep, can't remember what year though. I just know it was designed to be.

That has to be the meanest street sound i have ever heard. It wasn't decibel loud, it just sounded like there were a million parts moving. Most of the sound didn't come from the exhaust but from the spooling and unspooling of the twin turbos.

*** I love that engine!!


I would have to go out on a limb and say that the Mopar 2.2 SINGLE turbo cranking 225 HP was better [crafted] than the GN Turbo Buick Motor.
C'mon...4 cylinders and 225 HP. Buick did 6 Cyl and 245 HP in 87. yeah, yeah, GM downplayed the GN specs so it wouldn't outsell the vette of that year, so 275HP.

--Dan

I thought that they added in the sound, similar to what they did for KITT in Knight Rider. But if thats what the car really sounds like then me WANT!

Best thing, heh its a 4cyl twin turbo, and it doesn't sound like a fart. If thats the way it truely sounds though. It may have been a special effect.

I want "The Wraith" on DVD, just so I can watch the race scenes.

Oh I'm sure it could... but I'm just pointing out the fact that the "10 second" races in F&F seemed to take a minute or two....

somebody should time it and see how long it actually takes?

i don't own it (for a couple of reasons).. but i'll try to grab my friends' copy and see... i'm estimating 23 seconds..

Yeah that was Oldsmobiles first attempt in a long time at a pace car. not a bad job either! 88-89 year?
I beleive they used a prototype of the Quad four too?
Would love to have that thing!(heel just the engine would do!

Camaro, it wasn't a Olds. It was infact branded under the Dodge name. Its got mopar at heart. The original PPG Turbo Interceptor was capable of almost 200mph with that engine. The body was so aerodynamic that the Coefficient of Drag was .19 I beleive. Thats VERY low. I'm searching up articles to verify what i just stated BTW.

EDIT: The listed coefficient in the article I just read rates it at around .239 I beleive. Which is better than our cars.

Here are some quotes from articles I"ve searched up. I'll add links to them too.

Source: http://www.allpar.com/squads/pace.htmlAnother article. This one has MUCH more info on the PPG Turbo Interceptor, I.E..."Dodge M4S". A pic of it.

Here is the company that sells the "Wraith II" aka a modifed version of the original.

A Supra with 10,000 in it should hit tens that is without going single. The single kits are outrageously priced I think it would cost 10K just for the kit nevermind a fuel system, boost controller, and such.

I hope to at least get down to the low 12's before the end of the T&T season is over(3 weeks).

The races are a LOT longer than 23s ;-)

I read somewhere that the Supra ran hi 11s IRL, the Eclipse ran 14s, the Charger ran low 11s, and the s2000 ran 13s. It actually might've been on the DVD or their website, I forget.

I have the DVD *covers head and ducks before the beating commences*

*pops head back up* oh I didn't get beat over owning the F&F DVD. YAY! Ehhmm...I don't remember the mentioning how fast any of the cars featured in the movie were. If anyone know's I'd love to get some solid info on the Charger.

ive heard that the supra had like over a 100k invested into it

but then again this is from friends at school that think that an import with 3/4 the horse power of a domestic would win because of the weight diff

and i to oown the dvd



































i bought it for the charger scenes :hail: big block with blower:hail:

Dude, you cant go wrong with a car that has Charlie Sheen behind the wheel.

there web site says

1969 dodge charger top speed=145, 0-60=4sec 1/4=11sec

1995 eclipse hp=250 0-60=6sec 1/4=14.1sec

s2000 hp=250-275(they don't even know?) 0-60=5 1/4=13 sec

1995 toyota supra hp=650, 0-60=4.4 sec 1/4=11sec

oh yeah the race at the start of the f&f was about 2 min 29 sec
the s200 race was about 25 sec
the last one about 1 min 36 sec
some really fast cars

:sillylol:

You must've been really bored, eh?