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Well i'm tryin' to build a street/strip car and was wondering if i could have some of you fella's post for me some 1/4 mile times cause the best i heard i could do on a budget was 13's with a street firebird 1987 with a 3.42 gears a stall converter with a cam matching the rpms of the stall...any ideas that will gain me some time on somewhat of a budget? post times and give me a little info guys on what it takes to make a real street driven off pump gas and a little octane booster help me out
__________________ 1987 pontiac firebird original v6 car swapped to a chevy 355 small block with forged crank, and cast flat tops, proflo high rise intake , comp cam with 532 lift, seal pro lifters, chevy pink rods, accel superstock 8.0's, holley 780 cfm double pumper carb HP series, ported polished and milled 2.02 heads with new valve guides 882 casting, flowtech headers, and y pipe, w/ 3" catback, chopped catilytic converter (illegal but ks cops dont enforce) and a 80's series flowmaster, turbo 350 trans w/B&M shifter (Spun rod)
New project same engine after polishing crank 9:1 compression flat tops added with a set of 461 castings ported and polished plus a valve job and a 2700 stall converter, and a 3.73 rear end
I saw a ford keep up with a chevy once...then the tow rope broke
I did mid 12s on slicks and high 12s to 13.0s all day on radials. Not only is it mild and on a budget, but gets great gas mileage, idles stock, and has all the ameneties you could want (short of AC, I pulled that out)!
As far as in an Fbody, there are plenty of 350 motors out there going better than 13s on a budget. A good tranny, stall, gears, mild cam, and intake work should get it well down through the 13s! A guy I know has a 355 in his thirdgen and has been 12.0s on DRs and into the 11s on slicks. I dont know the details or how cheap it was, but there definately is hope!
Buy used parts and do your own work, and you can save a ton of $$$!
i would say put it on the bottle if your confident cheap power on a budget just stay small a 75 shot or something would be a gain but a relativly stock motor could definately handle it
would you guys put 11's out of reach? i knoticed on thirdgenracing.com that they have a camaro running 11.42's or some where in that general area..what kind of work does it take to achieve that kind of quarter mile time keep in mind i'm running only pump gas, and this is a daily driver
Originally posted by kileschilke4 would you guys put 11's out of reach? i knoticed on thirdgenracing.com that they have a camaro running 11.42's or some where in that general area..what kind of work does it take to achieve that kind of quarter mile time keep in mind i'm running only pump gas, and this is a daily driver
You are no where near 11's. To run 11's you need around 450+hp in a lightened car. You will have to really think about a drag set-up and a healthier motor as well to get there. Street set-ups will not help your ET with the same given power.
i'm thinkin about how a 3.73 rear end would work out for me from my 3.42 ...would it be a big enough difference or just a lot more work than what it's worth? another thing is if the stall is matched correctly to the camshaft, and i put on a set of 461 heads with a valve job and port and polish, running a bored over 355 with 9.5:1 compression..is that going to do what i want it to? where would you guys put me at as far as runnin in the 12 region?
PS-I like the quote lol very true
If its fast, and cheap, its not done right.
If its fast, and done right, its not cheap.
If its done right, and cheap, its not fast.
Last edited by kileschilke4; 01-11-2006 at 02:26 PM.
Well i picked up those heads from a friend of mine who does porting and polishing professionally and has done for about 20 years now with a 5 angle valve job, with port and polishing for 500 dollars (a 2000 dollar job) with the heads 461 casting!!!! i'm also picking up a 2700 stall converter for 75 dollars used from a friend who made 3 passes on it and stepped up to more stall so i'm picking up fairly good deals now all i have to worry about is the pistons and camshaft what do you think fellas?
Originally posted by ShiftyCapone You are no where near 11's. To run 11's you need around 450+hp in a lightened car. You will have to really think about a drag set-up and a healthier motor as well to get there. Street set-ups will not help your ET with the same given power.
Originally posted by kingdaddy305 450fwhp or 450rwhp?
flywheel would be my guess. In a 3200 lb car, your going to need a minimum of 300 rwhp to go high 11s. Add to that a little weight, so more like 350 rwhp, and then to be solid 11s, you should need 360-380 solid rwhp!
But remember peak power is only part of the big picture. Traction, gearing, torque and hp curve, and a TON of other factors determine what your car will run!
