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Hey uh, why are you persistently defending your Impala on a thirdgen camaro/firebird website? No DUH thirdgens were slower. They're 20 years older than your car. If your car wasnt at least as fast, there would be a very serious problem. The prominent point of owning a thirdgen is usually to modify and MAKE it fast. Most of the thirdgens on this site will mop the floor with your ride. So just give it a rest, no one cares about your impala. If they did, they'd own one just like you, and be on some impala website just like you SHOULD be.
Im not saying stock for stock dip****. But for no more than what 2 of your car payments would be for that ****box, im beating you with a 305...on motor. Plus, all of my cars...with the exception of the IROC will do nothing but continue to go up in value. Your Impala will not. The rest of the cars in my fleet would KILL you. Im telling ya moron, youre fighting a losing battle. Keep talking, and keep digging that hole. With each reply, youre just making yourself look like a bigger idiot.
Im not saying stock for stock dip****. But for no more than what 2 of your car payments would be for that ****box, im beating you with a 305...on motor. Plus, all of my cars...with the exception of the IROC will do nothing but continue to go up in value. Your Impala will not. The rest of the cars in my fleet would KILL you. Im telling ya moron, youre fighting a losing battle. Keep talking, and keep digging that hole. With each reply, youre just making yourself look like a bigger idiot.
Mr ASE...
Not doubting you have some nice cars. Its about about that. Yes I have payments to make cause I got a NEW car. Say what you want. If I stick my new SS in a garage for 25 years it will have nice value too. I had a Z28 before. Nice car. Your other rides are probably cool. But were talking stock for stock - THATS ALL!!! What part don't you get? Stock for stock its one of the fastest cars out! Period! Its in the top 10 out of about 325 models! (counting cars above about $ 60K)
For example It IS faster than almost EVERY car for 2006 plus...
FASTER THAN MOST OF THE OLD VETTES...
FASTER THAN ALMOST EVERY CAMARO, AND TRANS AM UP TIL RECENT YEARS...
FASTER THAN ALMOST EVERY MUSTANG EVER (INCLUDING 351 CLEVELANDS, BOSS, AND ALMOST ALL THE NEWER ONES EXCEPT FOR THE COBRAS AND THE NEW GT, WHICH IS ONLY SLIGHTLY FASTER...
FASTER THAN JUST ABOUT EVERY OLD MUSCLE CAR...
FASTER THAN JUST ABOUT EVERY JAP CAR...
WE ARE TALKING STOCK REMEMBER!
NOW MATTER HOW MUCH YOU SPIN IT 5.6 SEC 0 - 60 IS PRETTY GOOD STOCK! NOW LET ME HEAR YOUR DUMB REPLY.
This is a very bad argument. How can you think that arguing your car is faster than OLD cars is justified. You're saying it yourself..."My car is faster than all these old cars." Well, no **** sherlock. If cars didn't become faster and technology didn't improve then there wouldn't be any need for new cars. If your car wasnt faster than a car thats 20 years old, then there's a ****ing problem. I bet there are 25 '06 cars on the market that would whomp your ****.
Hey uh, why are you persistently defending your Impala on a thirdgen camaro/firebird website? No DUH thirdgens were slower. They're 20 years older than your car. If your car wasnt at least as fast, there would be a very serious problem. The prominent point of owning a thirdgen is usually to modify and MAKE it fast. Most of the thirdgens on this site will mop the floor with your ride. So just give it a rest, no one cares about your impala. If they did, they'd own one just like you, and be on some impala website just like you SHOULD be.
I hear what your sayin but its the hottest post for a reason! Plus how many have $30 K. Not being smart.
This is a very bad argument. How can you think that arguing your car is faster than OLD cars is justified. You're saying it yourself..."My car is faster than all these old cars." Well, no **** sherlock. If cars didn't become faster and technology didn't improve then there wouldn't be any need for new cars. If your car wasnt faster than a car thats 20 years old, then there's a ****ing problem. I bet there are 25 '06 cars on the market that would whomp your ****.
READ ON DUMB *** THERE ISN'T! THATS THE POINT. GO GET CONSUMER REPORTS. GO TO THE BACK WHERE EVERY NEW CAR IS. YOU WON'T FIND 10 FASTER INCLUDING PORCHE AND THE REST!!!
ALSO ITS NOT ALL ABOUT TECHNOLOGY... I GUESS MOST CARS IN 30 YEARS FROM NOW WILL RUN 3 SEC 0 - 60 LIKE NOTHING HUH!?! ITS NOT QUITE AS EASY AS THAT!
READ ON DUMB *** THERE ISN'T! THATS THE POINT. GO GET CONSUMER REPORTS. GO TO THE BACK WHERE EVERY NEW CAR IS. YOU WON'T FIND 10 FASTER INCLUDING PORCHE AND THE REST!!!
ALSO ITS NOT ALL ABOUT TECHNOLOGY... I GUESS MOST CARS IN 30 YEARS FROM NOW WILL RUN 3 SEC 0 - 60 LIKE NOTHING HUH!?! ITS NOT QUITE AS EASY AS THAT!
Mitsubishi lancer evo
Subaru impreza wrx
Corvette
Viper
Mercedes CL55 AMG
Mercedes E55 AMG
Audi RS 6
Chevy Camaro
BMW M5
Firebird
Cadillac CTS-V
Dodge Magnum SRT-8
Dodge Charger SRT-8
Acura NSX
Dodge Ram SRT10
Chrystler 300C
BMW M3
Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT-8
Chrystler Crossfire
Ford Mustang GT
Pontiac GTO
Jaguar S-Type
Ford lightening
Nissan 350Z
Dodge Neon SRT-4
Oh really? Ten did you say? Oh okay, so these 25 dont count? Most of which are right in the same price range as your prancing gazelle?
IF THATS TRUE NOT TOO BAD... 8 OF THEM ARE PROBABLY OVER $ 50 k!
Althought i'll have to admit not all of those are 2006. However, all of those are under 14 seconds...Where as your SS, according to a few sources, is at 14.4.
Althought i'll have to admit not all of those are 2006. However, all of those are under 14 seconds...Where as your SS, according to a few sources, is at 14.4.
THATS FUNNY i DONT THINK A 5.6 OR 5.7 WILL EQUAL OUT TO A 14.4...
Except your car runs a 6.4ish. Would you like for me to start quoting sources?
"With its traction control active you can throw a brick at the accelerator and the Impala SS will rip to 60 mph in 6.4 seconds and bound through the quarter-mile in 14.4 seconds at 97.5 mph."
My third gen. bone stock would beat that by a full second, 17 yr old technology and all.
Never
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Except your car runs a 6.4ish. Would you like for me to start quoting sources?
Yup... just one here....
For V-8 fans (and who isn't?) best news is the delightful new Impala SS, which returns legendary small-block Chevy power to the once-legendary Impala nameplate for the first time since last decade's huge, blimp-like rear-drive Impalas. This all-aluminum 5.3-liter sweetheart pumps out a healthy 303 hp and 323 lb-ft, launches the 3712-lb SS to 60 mph in 5.7 sec. and -- partly thanks to GM's Displacement on Demand (DOD) cylinder deactivation technology - delivers a very decent 18 mpg city, 28 mpg highway EPA economy.
Last edited by FrankA330; 06-07-2006 at 11:58 PM.
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So one sources says 5.7 and the other says 6.4. How cute of you to take the lower number. Take it to a track and find out on your own. I bet that 5.7 was the estimated time and the 6.4 was found by a drive test.
And all the sources that might state the 0-60 time is at 5.7...I betcha none of them put it under 14 seconds in the quarter mile.
So one sources says 5.7 and the other says 6.4. How cute of you to take the lower number. Take it to a track and find out on your own. I bet that 5.7 was the estimated time and the 6.4 was found by a drive test.
Another... At the top of the line is a $27,790 SS model powered by 303-hp V-8 and riding on a firmed-up suspension. Chevy claims a 0-to-60 time of 5.7 seconds for the SS. A short drive seemed to confirm that number. The SS was quick, particularly in the midrange, handled well, and generally felt like a coherent, well-assembled package.
Yeah, but you said a car with 5.7 wouldnt run 14 seconds in the quarter mile. All of those sources put it above 14 seconds.[/quotTE
I DIDNT SEE ANY SUCH THING
We certainly can’t argue with this kind of performance from a family sedan that starts at $26,990 — there’s that 0-to-60 time of 5.7 seconds, the quarter-mile turns in 14.2 seconds at 101 mph, and the ungoverned top speed is 154 mph.
We certainly can’t argue with this kind of performance from a family sedan that starts at $26,990 — there’s that 0-to-60 time of 5.7 seconds, the quarter-mile turns in 14.2 seconds at 101 mph, and the ungoverned top speed is 154 mph.
Car and Driver.
WOW not a bad top end. Others DO have it in the 13.6 range. Give me time.
Haha, I think it's time to call it quits. We're just going back and forth. Sources will be different. So your car is 5.7 and up in the quarter, and 13.6-14.x in the quartermile. Its quick, it's fast, its a sedan, wonderful. Thirdgens are not even close in anyway to an impala. They're totally different vehicles. No need to see whos is faster, because thats like saying my brand new computer is way faster than your 5 year old one. Well, yes, I'd hope so.
keep in mind the different elevations of the test will make the results vary. I agree with hihighost. As long as you love your impala, thats great that you have it. And we love our cars just as much as you love your impala.
keep in mind the different elevations of the test will make the results vary. I agree with hihighost. As long as you love your impala, thats great that you have it. And we love our cars just as much as you love your impala.
I hear ya guys. I'd love to find a ROC to play with too.
This has got to be the stupidest thread in months...
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Originally Posted by FrankA330
Another... Chevy claims a 0-to-60 time of 5.7 seconds for the SS. A short drive seemed to confirm that number...
...and generally felt like a coherent, well-assembled package.
A "short drive"? "SEEMED to confirm"?? "Generally felt like"?!? Are you freakin' kidding me?
What I get out of that is that C&D was too freakin' lazy to even put a G-Tech in the car, much less do any actual instrumented testing - which makes what they're saying worthless (and quite honestly, diminishes my respect for C&D) unless you're looking for ad copy.
I see the new Impala as a mixed bag - the styling is enthusiastically mediocre, and FWD does nothing for me. On the other hand, the fact that GM's made the new Impala "SS" & the GTO shows that they're still blindly groping around, trying to get into the game, & that performance isn't entirely a "dirty word" there. The interior isn't that bad, even though the seats in the picture don't look like they're worthy of being in a performance car...
Hopefully, it'll help pull GM out of it's current slump...
You're forgetting resale value. What's your car worth with all those miles $3,500? LOL
Are you serious? You buy cars based on resale value! Every car today has terrible resale value, but I admitt Accords and Camrys do have better resale than Domestics. That's my point though! Consumers set the resale values by what they're willing to pay for a certain vehicle! People are willing to pay more for imports! Why? I'll tell you why, because of the over blown reputations of import cars and the bad reputations of domestic cars! It was true maybe 10 or 15 years ago, but today the playing field is level! IMO!
I agree with your statement about the people and the future. Part of the problem is that the "muscle race" cars lost their looks and production a little while back. There are no IROCS and T/A's around. Now a days these young kids think that the foreign cars like Civica and Nissans are real race cars. THEYRE NOT! Japs make fast motorcycles. There is just a LOSS of good old muscle!!!
It's on the come back! I hope! It's scary to me, because I never want the USA to be without USA built (and owned) car companies! The general public doesn't really seem to care though they just keep on buying them stupid Accords and Camrys!
BTW here's what's in my Garage!
1990 Iroc Vert
1998 Grand Prix
1999 Suburban
Last edited by dbs90irocz; 06-08-2006 at 02:10 PM.
1985 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z28 7.0 15.2
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z 6.6 14.9
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z L98 6.8 15.3
1988 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z 7.0 15.5
1990 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z 5.8 14.4
1990 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 6.5 15.0
Thats a 305
Like I said "Mr. Jet Fuel" ...you just need to give up right now. You and your inaccurate little magazine tests arent getting anywhere. Your new car is a piece of ****, and you got ripped off. Why dont you grow some balls and taks that thing to the track and see how slow it really is. As somebody else said...kinda funny how that ****box is supposed to run between a 13.6-14.4....yet you just take the 13.6 as the time to quote in your post. And I hate to tell you, but you said your car is faster than most all of the old musclecars? Try again. Put todays tire on an old musclecar and youll see how wrong you are. If you dont believe me, compare the ET to the MPH of what the cars were running back then. The point is once again....your car sucks, you need to get rid of it and get something a little quicker than 14's if youre gonna come around here and run your mouth. I just find it funny how you just WASTED $30K on that car, and I have about $600 in mods done to my TA, and Im smoking you with a 305, on motor, all with the stock CCC setup, full emissions equipment intact, and getting 18/25mpg. So do yourself a favor, and get the hell out of here.
__________________ 1969 Dodge Dart 270
360/A-833/4.10
11.97 at 113mph
1963 Dodge Dart 270
360/904/4.88
Best of 10.73@124.7mph
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula 'S' fastback
360/A-833/4.10
11.65 at 117mph
dont worry there is a word for this.. paper racing? i cant remmeber exactly, but anyways, he can argue all he wants but when he gets ripped left and right in the city by all the other cars old and new.. all he can say is "stock for stock mine woulda been faster"
and the other drive would roll his eyes and leave..
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dont worry there is a word for this.. paper racing? i cant remmeber exactly, but anyways, he can argue all he wants but when he gets ripped left and right in the city by all the other cars old and new.. all he can say is "stock for stock mine woulda been faster"
and the other drive would roll his eyes and leave..
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Last edited by TraviZ; 06-08-2006 at 01:50 PM.
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There is nothing overrated about Honda and Toyota reliability.
If you're so worried about not having an American car company to buy from, get some education, get a job at one of them, and try your damndest to manufacture a car that someone is interested in purchasing. Otherwise, quit bitching about how you have to settle for less because you're too scared to deviate.
There is nothing overrated about Honda and Toyota reliability.
If you're so worried about not having an American car company to buy from, get some education, get a job at one of them, and try your damndest to manufacture a car that someone is interested in purchasing. Otherwise, quit bitching about how you have to settle for less because you're too scared to deviate.
I is uh edjumacated man!
I'm sure the hundreds of thousands of Impala owners are too!
Though this Impala owner brought his fight to the wrong forum!
Let's get back to third gens! Geeze!
There is nothing overrated about Honda and Toyota reliability.
If you're so worried about not having an American car company to buy from, get some education, get a job at one of them, and try your damndest to manufacture a car that someone is interested in purchasing. Otherwise, quit bitching about how you have to settle for less because you're too scared to deviate.
There is nothing overrated about Honda and Toyota reliability.
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It all depends on how a vehicle is miantained, which accounts for it's overall performence and reliability. If I bought a car in 1967 and have been doing everything the manufacturer states one should do when certain upcoming miles are acheived. Then I should still have a decent reliable car now, 2006. And there are still lots of cars and older which are still running because the vehicle has responsible owners.
What you're completely missing is that with a Honda or a Toyota, you can do NONE of the things that the manufacture recommends and it will still likely run to 100,000 miles.
There is nothing overrated about Honda and Toyota reliability.
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It all depends on how a vehicle is miantained, which accounts for it's overall performence and reliability. If I bought a car in 1967 and have been doing everything the manufacturer states one should do when certain upcoming miles are acheived. Then I should still have a decent reliable car now, 2006. And there are still lots of cars and older which are still running because the vehicle has responsible owners.
1967 I wouldn't go back that far american quality was horrible with poorly made internals and many other things. It was all about number of sales back then that why Imports got so much respect their cars lasted longer. Nowadays american quality it a lot better but you still get what you pay for a $30k like the Impala is a great car with a very powerful performance engine in its price range. The only other car I can think of with more power are those Hemi sedans. I would definitly put the Impala SS engine's quality up against Hondas V6 and Toyota V6 engines anyday.
BTW Stu that import quality you talk so much about is out sourced now to other companies. Stuff like interior componets, switches, steering knuckles, axels, brake brackets the list is huge! An these same companies make these parts for domestic companies too. Right now the only reason I would buy a import over a domestic would be for gas mileage but for muscle I'll go with domestic THATS ONLY IN $30k PRICE RANGE.
What you're completely missing is that with a Honda or a Toyota, you can do NONE of the things that the manufacture recommends and it will still likely run to 100,000 miles.
You can do that samething with GM cars easy I've seen it done. I've change the oil in some GM cars for people that had black mud come out and they were over 100k without smoking an running smoothly. I know a women that has a 1986 Iroc with over 250K miles and the timing belt has never been changed. Its her daily driver.
It's on the come back! I hope! It's scary to me, because I never want the USA to be without USA built (and owned) car companies! The general public doesn't really seem to care though they just keep on buying them stupid Accords and Camrys!
BTW here's what's in my Garage!
1990 Iroc Vert
1998 Grand Prix
1999 Suburban
Like I said "Mr. Jet Fuel" ...you just need to give up right now. You and your inaccurate little magazine tests arent getting anywhere. Your new car is a piece of ****, and you got ripped off. Why dont you grow some balls and taks that thing to the track and see how slow it really is. As somebody else said...kinda funny how that ****box is supposed to run between a 13.6-14.4....yet you just take the 13.6 as the time to quote in your post. And I hate to tell you, but you said your car is faster than most all of the old musclecars? Try again. Put todays tire on an old musclecar and youll see how wrong you are. If you dont believe me, compare the ET to the MPH of what the cars were running back then. The point is once again....your car sucks, you need to get rid of it and get something a little quicker than 14's if youre gonna come around here and run your mouth. I just find it funny how you just WASTED $30K on that car, and I have about $600 in mods done to my TA, and Im smoking you with a 305, on motor, all with the stock CCC setup, full emissions equipment intact, and getting 18/25mpg. So do yourself a favor, and get the hell out of here.
Whatever dude. What I said here Mr ASE, is that this Chevy is STOCK and its fast. When your 305 new, (which was nothing to brag about), was new, you would get SMOKED from my SS! You got $600 invested...WOW! The only other advice is to stay away from aviation! Let GM deal with your dumbness and stupidity.
my stock 98 camaro ls1 would walk all around your impala. did i mention thats 8 years old? oh and i paid 6.5k for it and even if im exagerating it running circles.. it will still be very good competition.. hope this is enough to show you your car is not all that , especially for what u paid.
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my stock 98 camaro ls1 would walk all around your impala. did i mention thats 8 years old? oh and i paid 6.5k for it and even if im exagerating it running circles.. it will still be very good competition.. hope this is enough to show you your car is not all that , especially for what u paid.
Look it up. Barely. Depends who gets the better jump! You dumb A**** always relate the price of the car to speed! That is the dumbest thing I heard! The car is new, your car is old. Cars cost more today than they did! Its very simple to understand.
Ten did you say? Oh okay, so these 25 dont count? Most of which are right in the same price range as your prancing gazelle? 
...you just need to give up right now. You and your inaccurate little magazine tests arent getting anywhere. Your new car is a piece of ****, and you got ripped off. Why dont you grow some balls and taks that thing to the track and see how slow it really is. As somebody else said...kinda funny how that ****box is supposed to run between a 13.6-14.4....yet you just take the 13.6 as the time to quote in your post. And I hate to tell you, but you said your car is faster than most all of the old musclecars? Try again. Put todays tire on an old musclecar and youll see how wrong you are. If you dont believe me, compare the ET to the MPH of what the cars were running back then. The point is once again....your car sucks, you need to get rid of it and get something a little quicker than 14's if youre gonna come around here and run your mouth. I just find it funny how you just WASTED $30K on that car, and I have about $600 in mods done to my TA, and Im smoking you with a 305, on motor, all with the stock CCC setup, full emissions equipment intact, and getting 18/25mpg. So do yourself a favor, and get the hell out of here. 
