so My friends dad has a 89 dodge daytona 2.2 inter cooled turbo and im just a stock L03 i figured i would get my *** kicked since i got an lo3 but what are your opinions? his car is bone stock so is mine. if mine wouldn't win would a 305 TPI win against him?

i believe the 5speed equipped turbo Daytonas were low 15 sec cars. is his auto or stick?

If your car is bone stock then you're done. I'd say if you had just a set of gears and a good tune you could have this one. If anything you would most definately have a good hole shot on him if you had a posi and were a good driver but I forsee him catching up with you at the end. maybe. Plus it doesn't have anything to due with whether you have tbi or tpi. If either car isn't in a good state of tune or is as bone stock as it came of the lot then it's anybodies game.

Love the old-school match-up! If he gets a good launch and nothing is seriously wrong with his car, you are toast.

Update* Well we didn't race from a start but i raced him on the freeway and he crawled passed me and i mean it took him forever to get past me lol i think thats pretty funny because by how much he talks about how his car is SOOO fast and it just crawled by me and im only a 305 TBI....lol yea man you are so fast.

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http://www.wraithinnovations.com/turbointerceptor.html

hey now, tbi may not be performance oriented since it has a lower max cfm and limited ability to supply fuel (lo3 tbi anyway), but the major issue with the LO3 is not the fuel injection mechanism, it's the heads and exhaust system from the headers back and maybe cam. Thow a big block tbi unit on there and replace the exhaust and you'd still have a 305 tbi, but it would be plenty better than stock. TPI isn't even all that much of an advantage over tbi, it's got a narrower power band and only gets better hp because it can get more fuel to the cylinders having 8 injectors compared to 2 in tbi. So much of it's performance is dependent on everything in the intake and exhuast being matched to put it's powerband in the right range.

ok, done ranting.

did you run heat soaked or while the car was still far from warming up? TBI cars have crappy intakes, once everything is warmed up, you might as well have an open element air cleaner with 4/5ths of it taped over. Running from a cold start gives you a sneak peak at what cold air and a little more fuel can do to the lowly 305. Feels like a different car to me anyway.

the car was actually warmed up cause we were on a 2 hour freeway trip up to the top of the state.so are you saying that my car will be a little bit faster when its cold??ive never really thought of that because i always let my car warm up but i have drove it once without letting it warm up and i noticed if you step on the throttle pretty good that it will hesitate and then take off pretty good which it never does when its warm.it will still take off quick when its warm but with no hesitation whatsoever..

Anyways i am planning on doing alot of mods to it but im really hoping my gas mileage doesn't change a WHOLE LOT because its my everyday driver lol

A lot of time the computer has presets for fueling when the sensors aren't warmed up, since running lean is very dangerous, the car defaults to running a little rich. Combine that with colder air since the engine compartment is still cool, and you get a pretty significant pep compared to when everything is all warmed up...

A buddy of mine had a Dodge Shadow from around that year with the 2.2 turbo and a 5spd. I ran him twice with my Canadian spec 81 z28 with a 350 and a 4spd with the factory 3:42 gears in it. My car wasnt exactly in great shape then (its worse now), and it was all stock right down to the 1 into 2 exaust setup. I also cant drive for sh*t, and my tranny has never liked shifting into 2nd. I had two passengers, he had one.

The first race, I smoked my tires off the launch, struggled with the 1-2 shift, flat out missed the 2-3. He had me by a fender in the the "quarter" and I had him by two lengths at the half mile. Say what you will about the late second gens being dogs (they are) but they go pretty good in third and fourth. They launch slow, and have no top speed, but they like 50-120mph

The second race we ran was terrible, as he launched in fourth, lol. But those little 2.2 turbos are quick little motors. My buddy claims he only lost one race... and that was to an Ambulance, and that was only because the EMT cheated by hitting the lights, and doing a ***** flyby complete with flipping my buddy off. Good times.

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