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I was wondering who will win I have never got the chance to race a S2000 while in my Iroc. I have raced one stop light to light while in my pos sohc Del Sol and the S2000 only won by a car length.
I dont know much about their performance but I do know they put out 240 hp and weigh 2800 lbs. 1988 IROC 5.0 TPI put out 220 HP and weighed 3200 lbs.
I think gearing (I see you have 3.73 gears) and traction will determine the winner--should be close though.
Your best bet is a stop light race. You'll most likely get pulled on racing from a roll. I've read many times they lack torque big time and are difficult to launch.
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I think if it's a light to light race, and he launches well, he will do ok. Of course the longer you go, the more he's going to catch up.
These to cars are so different in many ways. It would take and experienced S2000 driver to make that little car leave hard with out burning the tires. It would be a balancing act to say the least. And if he were to leave at a relaxed 3000rpms that would not be enough to pull on the Camaro from a dig. It all depends on the driver of the honda. Your job is easy, just point and shoot. I would say it would be an awsome race with two cars that should be low 15s-high 14s. If the S2000 can drive he might have a bit of an edge. But with slicks the S2000 is a solid 14.0s.
I raced a v6 mustang with a m90 supercharger and exhaust and headers with my 350 tpi iroc and i lost by 2 lentghs and that made me feel bad so now i am saving for a LT1
I raced a v6 mustang with a m90 supercharger and exhaust and headers with my 350 tpi iroc and i lost by 2 lentghs and that made me feel bad so now i am saving for a LT1
am i the only one who thinks this came from way out in space somewhere???
anyway i agree it should be a very close race... but if he has anything as far as mods even a cat back exhaust.. say good bye bolt on mods make s2k more power than you would imagin.. one here with header high flow cat and hks power exhaust runs 13.7 on falkens at out track every weekend
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Yup. No low-end torque and most S2000 owners are afraid to launch the car the way it needs to be launched.
A full 1/4 mile race would smack down the Iroc.
THe reason we are afraid to launch them is that they have wicked weak diffs. a correct launch will kill the diff. i have launched the s2k many times, but every time i brough the rpms up really high so that i knew the tires would never hook.
but truthfully, even if he didnt launch at all, he still would smoke you. (s2k stock 0-60=5.5's, camaro stock 0-60=6.5-7's ish)
I know i only lost by a car length in my del sol and my camaro will blow the doors off of that car so I think I should be able to take one from stoplight to stoplight. I agree that on the highway or simalar conditions that the s2000 will walk on me
THe reason we are afraid to launch them is that they have wicked weak diffs. a correct launch will kill the diff. i have launched the s2k many times, but every time i brough the rpms up really high so that i knew the tires would never hook.
but truthfully, even if he didnt launch at all, he still would smoke you. (s2k stock 0-60=5.5's, camaro stock 0-60=6.5-7's ish)
One thing that is being overlooked with your stock 0-60 numbers is that he is running a 3.73 rear end--they will improve his 0-60 times dramatically over stock.
I used to own a Porsche 930 turbo and that thing could run away from ANYTHING and I mean anything from a roll but off the line I would get killed--very hard to launch and 1st gear was just too steep.
Bottom line is the launch--if the camaro hooks up on a 1 block race (light to light) I really think this race will be closer than most people think.
One thing that is being overlooked with your stock 0-60 numbers is that he is running a 3.73 rear end--they will improve his 0-60 times dramatically over stock.
I used to own a Porsche 930 turbo and that thing could run away from ANYTHING and I mean anything from a roll but off the line I would get killed--very hard to launch and 1st gear was just too steep.
Bottom line is the launch--if the camaro hooks up on a 1 block race (light to light) I really think this race will be closer than most people think.
Your right, i totally overlooked the fact that he had 3:73 gears. its still gonna be a close race, but i would still give it to the s2k. also if the s2k is modified at all, even slightly it would be very hard for a camaro to beat it.
If you want to compare applies to apples the s2000 doesnt stand a chance. What do I mean? A $11,000 s2000 (which would 100% stock) to a $11,000 IROC (which would be heavily modified).
Hell, if you even put steeper gears in the IROC (4.10) I think a 5.7 IROC would take a stock S2000 down.
err everyone here is looking at numbers vs numbers hp vs hp.... you guys need to remmeber vtec is a completely different animal compared to conventional valve timing depending how the driver is on it vtec kicks in ajusts to the power that the driver is asking for.. the s2k utilizes its power much much more efficiently than our iroc..
the ONLY way the S2000 is a low 14/high 13 sec car is if its launched like you wanna break it. if not, its stuck in the mid 14s. most owners dont launch it like they need to... even if they do, itll spin like mad on the street
itll be a close race till about the "eigth" mile, then the S2000 will pull
If you want to compare applies to apples the s2000 doesnt stand a chance. What do I mean? A $11,000 s2000 (which would 100% stock) to a $11,000 IROC (which would be heavily modified).
Hell, if you even put steeper gears in the IROC (4.10) I think a 5.7 IROC would take a stock S2000 down.
I will toss in my .02 with regards to this statement. If you think comparing costs is a good comparison, think again. The S2000 is getting a newer car for that $11K. It's the same when comparing ANY old car vs a new car. So toss the money debate right out the door.
If you want to compare applies to apples the s2000 doesnt stand a chance. What do I mean? A $11,000 s2000 (which would 100% stock) to a $11,000 IROC (which would be heavily modified).
That's the mentality ricers use when they take a clapped out $500 civic, build the piss out of it and think it's a better car than a Corvette because it's faster....
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I will toss in my .02 with regards to this statement. If you think comparing costs is a good comparison, think again. The S2000 is getting a newer car for that $11K. It's the same when comparing ANY old car vs a new car. So toss the money debate right out the door.
New or old who cares? What does that have to do with this debate? Absolutely nothing. The point being dollar for dollar the IROC wins and it wouldnt even be close (you could go twin turbo for this kind of money). Sure its a nice bonus to pay $11k and get a newer car but if we are talking about speed, power and who is fastest this debate is over.
New or old who cares? What does that have to do with this debate? Absolutely nothing. The point being dollar for dollar the IROC wins and it wouldnt even be close (you could go twin turbo for this kind of money). Sure its a nice bonus to pay $11k and get a newer car but if we are talking about speed, power and who is fastest this debate is over.
I'm unsure wtf your actually talking about. You don't buy an S2000 to spend the least money to go the fastest, you buy one for other reasons... The person buying one is getting a newer, better car for the money. That has NOTHING to do with the race mentioned by the OP, so I'm unsure why your even bringing up the fact that a clapped out thirdgen costs less than an S2000? You could make a VW Beetle faster for cheaper than the thirdgen, is it better???
I guess I'm just unsure how you can justify only comparing performance when comparing the cost of two cars, when your buying more than just performance...
New or old who cares? What does that have to do with this debate? Absolutely nothing. The point being dollar for dollar the IROC wins and it wouldnt even be close (you could go twin turbo for this kind of money). Sure its a nice bonus to pay $11k and get a newer car but if we are talking about speed, power and who is fastest this debate is over.
Again, see my reply. Rice mentality all the way. Also 4.10's would put a 305 Iroc in the low 14 second range? WTF are you smoking and can I have some?
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