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The fox Mustang, even though some say was ugly, saved the Mustang from being axed. Their intent was to use the Probe as the Mustang design and go with a front wheel drive, small engine car. I'm glad they chose the escort looking fox instead!
Also the Fbody cost more back in the day, of which I wasn't alive for either.
Noone is saying the Camaro or Fbody (this is a GM site, NOT just a Camaro site) was bad, quite the contrary. Just the fact that back in the 80s and 90s, things were different.
I dont mind the F-bodys. My favorite car of all time is the 69 boss 429. But i have 2 buddys with basically stock 5.0s and their not a hole lot faster than my car. But the 302s can get 500hp out of them with out a problem.
kevin
I peresonally like the looks of the third gens and the 5.0 mustangs,and I wast trying to knock the third gens.You just made a comment that showed you really didnt know what you were talking about.The only reason GM put a 350 back in the camaro and firebirds was because the 305 couldn't keep up with the mustangs 302. The ford and mustang guys would always poke fun that it took 50 more cubes for the f bodys to keep up with a 5.0.The amount of bolt ons for 5.0's and how well they responded to them .vs practiaclly no bolt ons for the fbodies made it easy for the 5.0s to walk away from even an L98.
Last edited by 84firebird383; 03-12-2009 at 06:57 PM.
I dont mind the F-bodys. My favorite car of all time is the 69 boss 429. But i have 2 buddys with basically stock 5.0s and their not a hole lot faster than my car. But the 302s can get 500hp out of them with out a problem.
kevin
I assume these Mustangs are GT verts with autos? A 5-speed 5.0 Mustang vs a TBI car would never be a contest, unless there was something wrong with the fox, or the TBI had a fair amount of mods.
most older stock Asian imports, any GM diesel up till '04.5 (stock anyways), any stock Cummins or Powerstroke. most gasser trucks will give you a run for your money.
alot of people on here are gonna talk bad about lo3 cars. but if its all u have then u gotta deal with it. i had a 1990 camaro rs lo3. with only a open element and flowmaster catback it ran 10.5-10.6 in the eigth mile. then after i was finished with it i did jus some wieght reduction(no rear seats, no emissions, no ac, manual steering swap with "skinnies" up front, battery in trunk, spare tire removed, radio and all speakers removed, and fiberglass cowl hood) and a few bolt ons(edelbrock headers and y-pipe, cat delete pipe, flowmaster catback, custom cold air intake, 160 thermostat, custom chip, tbi spacer, injector spacer, edelbrock tbi intake manifold, and a BRIGHT A** CORVETTE YELLOW PAINTJOB lol) my rs ran 9.2s in the eight mile. never got to run a quarter though. that was good enought to beat quite a few fox bodys and a ton of 4.6 gt stangs. plus every civic and integra at my school lol. all that was with the stock 2.73 open rear too. there not bad cars if u know wat ur doing. but like everyone on here will tell you- 350s are PLENTIFUL
also if u notice. i did get the car down to a 9.2 in the eigth mile which will beat every STOCK 4.6v8 stang(9.7-9.8 at best) and almost 80% of all the ricers on the street. but i had well over a grand in mods to the car jus for 1 1/2 seconds off my eigth mile from stock. it wasnt worth it. fun car, but for what i put into it i coulda jus bought a 350.
I have 2000 gt I run 9s with 4.10 gears,o/r hpipe,sct tuner on cheap tires then I changed my intake cause it was craked,I just bought mm rear control arms,and nx nitrous kit I havent been to the strip since control arms I should runs high 8s
also if u notice. i did get the car down to a 9.2 in the eigth mile which will beat every STOCK 4.6v8 stang(9.7-9.8 at best) and almost 80% of all the ricers on the street. but i had well over a grand in mods to the car jus for 1 1/2 seconds off my eigth mile from stock. it wasnt worth it. fun car, but for what i put into it i coulda jus bought a 350.
I think you should recheck your quote. It should beat most stock 96-98 4.6s, it should be a good run with a 99-04 car, unless it is driven well, and an 05+ would beat that number by a fair amount. I am speaking GTs here, as every 4.6 cobra would beat that, as well as the Mach 1 and shelby. Just to clarify.
I have 2000 gt I run 9s with 4.10 gears,o/r hpipe,sct tuner on cheap tires then I changed my intake cause it was craked,I just bought mm rear control arms,and nx nitrous kit I havent been to the strip since control arms I should runs high 8s
please tell me ur talking about the 1/8 mile. if so, where in the 9s did it run and at what mph? what size shot? any dyno #s?
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I think you should recheck your quote. It should beat most stock 96-98 4.6s, it should be a good run with a 99-04 car, unless it is driven well, and an 05+ would beat that number by a fair amount. I am speaking GTs here, as every 4.6 cobra would beat that, as well as the Mach 1 and shelby. Just to clarify.
dont the 99-04 GTs (manual trans) run about the same as the 96-98 4v Cobras? i seem to remember those not being as potent as the 99/01 4v cars and only going high 13s or so
please tell me ur talking about the 1/8 mile. what size shot? any dyno #s?
i think he is
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Originally Posted by tpivette89
dont the 99-04 GTs (manual trans) run about the same as the 96-98 4v Cobras? i seem to remember those only going high 13s or so
New Edge GT's should be able to pull off a high 13 with a great driver, but on average they're a basement 14 car. the SN95 Cobra's were good for mid-upper 13's.
New Edge GT's should be able to pull off a high 13 with a great driver, but on average they're a basement 14 car. the SN95 Cobra's were good for mid-upper 13's.
i hope by new edge your not talking about the new sn197 mustangs they pull mid to low 13s with a good driver not high
I beat some fool in a r!ced out Nissan Stanza wagon
(I.E. fart can, honda rims, even had stickers on it. cant forget the douche had hater-blockers on too LOL!)
__________________ Before paint
1988 Camaro Sport Coupe
305 TBI/T5, Open element, 8000K HID, Modified LO5 build in progress. 4th Gen. 3.73 Posi/Disc rear. Much more to come!
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Reason: Forgot to add it was a wagon
dont the 99-04 GTs (manual trans) run about the same as the 96-98 4v Cobras? i seem to remember those not being as potent as the 99/01 4v cars and only going high 13s or so
They should be similar, lower 14s, higher 13s with the Cobras being a little faster. The newer 4v Cobras should be more solid in the 13s, and then the 03-04 is a different car really.
A low 9 second 1/8th mile is really only a sure thing against a 96-98 GT, the rest should run that fast if not faster.
I have seen an L03 5spd. car take my buddys bone stock L98 (87 with 2.77 rear) at the track. I think his car was running right around 15 flat, I was stunned to say the least. I looked over the kids car pretty well and the only "mod" I saw was someone took the emissions off it. Personally I think a L03 is a perfect canidate for a lil hidden nitrous system
I have seen an L03 5spd. car take my buddys bone stock L98 (87 with 2.77 rear) at the track. I think his car was running right around 15 flat, I was stunned to say the least. I looked over the kids car pretty well and the only "mod" I saw was someone took the emissions off it.
Now I'm definitley modding my L03!!! That was great inspiration, thanks!!!
Now I'm definitley modding my L03!!! That was great inspiration, thanks!!!
youre kidding right? no stock Lo3 will run a 15.0, emissions delete or not. There were obviously other mods on the car that were missed. And if i had a TPI350 thirdgen and couldnt get out of the 15s id drive it off a cliff. even with the crappy 2.77 gears its at least a high 14 sec car
did a search on these very boards, seems the best bone stock time from a TBI thirdgen is a 15.3. keep in mind that was a manual trans car with 3.42 gears. id be willing to bet less than 1% of TBI cars came from the factory this way. your auto trans, 2.73 geared car wont come anywhere near that time. heres the post:
just cause the car "looks" stock on the outside doesnt mean its stock. gears, clutch, short throw shifters, heads, cam... all these parts look exactly the same as the factory parts or cannot be seen from the outside of the car, even with the hood popped. even a nitrous system can be hidden from view
Last edited by tpivette89; 03-14-2009 at 06:55 AM.
while i know the calculators arent the most accurate, doing the math puts that 1/8 mile time at roughly a 14.5
with your mods, shouldnt you be faster than that? the mph seems a little off too. whats your track elevation? thats about what a stock, auto trans version of your car should run
while i know the calculators arent the most accurate, doing the math puts that 1/8 mile time at roughly a 14.5
with your mods, shouldnt you be faster than that? the mph seems a little off too. whats your track elevation? thats about what a stock, auto trans version of your car should run
411 dragway in semore tn,its the first time I ever drag raced. right after I found out I had a bad coil pack and my intake was cracked I havent been back to since it got repaired ill run better
ahh, that makes sense. no one gets the best E/T or mph on their first try. keep going back and trying different things until youve mastered your car
when i first drove my Vette down the 1/4 mile, i only went 12.9 at 113mph. after going down 4 - 5 more times i got my times down to 12.2 at 116 (7.9 at 91 in the 1/8) with no changes to the car other than driving technique. practice makes perfect
The good thing about the 305 is its torque, you can kill alot of cars stop light to stop lights.
Been beat by a few cars, listed below
The new lancer, was pretty quick!
350 Iroc "id hope id loose this one"
My brothers 04 grand am gt got me, he's far from stock, gonna run him again here in a few days
The lo3 does kill many cars like some listed below
Owned many civics, fart can=this guy is gonna race
v6 camaros 3rd/4th gen
v6 stangs everytime by at leest 2-3 cars
v8 stangs if they cant drive and have auto
rx8's
Gs/rs/Spyder Eclipses
Sentra's
Jacked up trucks
Bet this beast would take down all of our TBI's!!! I saw this on a road trip last year... who does this? I would be affraid to race it jk jk. It's so fast the hubcaps can't hang on (look at that rear rim)!!!
at our abondoned airstrip races, some kid brought his van and wanted to run it. Thought that was hella funny
Did you race him? Some of the newer minivans can be quick, not to mention we have ALL seen the guy online who took the mid 80s Caravan and put it into the mid 12s with a 2.2L (I believe) Chrysler motor.
Well since I live in an area where the whites are the minority and the asians are the majority, so 4 banger civics prowl at night pretending like they're japanese drifters and what not so I don't suffer very much when it comes to racing those "bad boys"
My car (bone stock) has beaten almost anything with a honda emblem that it has come across, a beamer of some sort, 98 around there, it was some girl that thought she was hot sh1t, 4th and 5th gen v6 mustangs, a couple of trucks, yeah it's lame but they wanted to race so who cares. And a 2001 GTI, it had a turbo, some girl that I knew from high school, I think she must have been letting me win or something because she let me drive it once and that little car is fast.
I have lost to a 4th gen lt1, big surprise right? an RX-8, it just kept pulling right off the line, numerous subaru's, one of those brand new altimas, the ones that go fast, i cracked my radiator racing that one.
I don't really care if I win or lose, i just cruise around at night pulling up at red lights looking for people to race, and don't get me wrong, i don't go all nascar on them and pull all the way up to 90 on the streets or anything, but i bring it up to where you know who wins
I had a truck try to. He was behind me as i was turning left onto a huge divided two way road. I rev a bit as i take off, and he pulls up behind me (light was still green). I hear him start to WOT and try to pull beside and I downshift and take off :P. Never really saw the truck, but I think it was a newer (06 maybe?) F series.
__________________ 92 RS TBI with T-5.
Dynomax Catback,
Hi flow cat.
TBI MODS-In progress LT1 cam swap, ported heads, ported tb unit
Infiniti 6x9s, 4x6s, 2 pioneer 12's.
500 watt blaupunkt,
power acoustik 840 gothic series
Just to clarify. 
He had to have some mods. 
who does this? I would be affraid to race it jk jk. It's so fast the hubcaps can't hang on (look at that rear rim)!!!
