Cming from a wed. rec. last nite around midnite, was on the hiway cruising home around 60, 2 chargers, a antifreze green and a white one. along with a all blacked out challenger came onto the hiway from the feeder, they spotted me i guess since they were speeding and finally slowed back down. to line up with my car. the white charger came around to my side and the black challenger lined to the pass. my gf gave me a stupid look, and just nodded, the challenger revved a few times, so did the white charger. i just kept on drving normal. the pass in the charger kept signaling me to go, speed off and slow down. challenger just revved. i was getting antsy. so my gf told me ok, just go but not too fast. i know it will bother u all night. i dropped from 6th to 5th, the cars heard the downshift. i rolled my windows down and signaled the 3 honks. rolled windows back up. charger honked 3 times. i cut it loose, down to 3, 7k rpm, shift 7k rpm. no cars in sight, only lights in my view mirrors. BUSes. shut down at 150 gf was on the invisible brakes and gripping the handle, pinned back to the seat. they finlly rolled up on me, kept wanting to again. dirty looks i just waved bye to those punks reward: i got to sleep on couch. LOL

i usually dont post much about street racing. but i thought that challenger was going to at least stay even. no chance. it did look and sound mean as hell. the black wheels had a bright red lip. looked really nice. sounded like it ran 9's in the 1/4.
meh

what are your mods?

Nice!...wich car were u driving? lol

ha sleep on the couch, ya gotta do what ya gotta do but ya coulda at least got a video :/

those cars arent that quick to begin with. High 12's at best with the srt8's from what i'm seeing. heavy cars

which car were you in?

**** those things I think they're ugly. people that drive cars like that generally don't know much about the car they drive. give us some info of your set-up.

they weigh 4100 pounds there to heavy

1. Challenger's are heavy butt ugly cars. The interior looks VERY cheap.

2. LOL at your GF telling you to not go too fast, and you shut down at 150! LOL What does she consider fast?

3. Good kill/kills.

10.75:1 375ci LSx, laid down 490 to the whels around 2 yrs. on MTI dyno

00 Camaro SS

yea, she wasnt too thrilled about the run, i doubt she would have wanted to film the run, hanging out the window at 100+ LOL

Apparently me just downshifting is too fast, becuase the rpm are high, exhaust is loud.she thinks thats racing. its been a while since i gave some WOT to the ss

While Dodge did a pretty good job of making the Challenger look both retro and new, they really mucked up the performance of the car - a true shame.

4200lbs is about 600lbs more than I expected the car to be when I heard about it a few years ago. Unfortunately you need to put the big 6.1L Hemi in the car to get it into the 13's - the 5.7 only runs low to mid 14's in a 300, Charger, or Magnum. If they only made it 3500lb and stuck the 425hp motor in it - hello Corvette.

Has anyone besides me noticed how high the Challenger sits? I was at a car show last summer and a brand new one was sitting next to a GN (not even lowered) and it was 5 or 6" taller than the GN.

i wouldnt expect a couple of 3800+ lb 13 sec cars to hang with a 10 second SS

Me too!....its freakin Huge!....its almost as high as my dads 2wd 5.3 silverado stock (wich he beats hemi ram's in that bitch)

Gm power babeh

the LS3 Vette only weighs 3200lbs and has an underrated 430hp or 436hp (depending on exhaust options). bye bye Challenger... even at 3500lbs

So you cant just go to the dealer and spend 40grand and be fast???

I wonder how those punks felt after they got there buts kicked.

your gf sent you on the couch?? lol. my gf loves speed.. makes her do things to me

i guess the mirror chrome 18 wheels with lo pro tires really fooled em'
i actually dynoed with chrome 18x9 c5 wagon wheels and goodyear f1 tires 27540zr18 all the way around.

not too happy, they sure were maddogging, they came back up to me for more. i just waved them off. they did the ***** flyby after i didnt bite anymore.

3500lbs and 425HP isn't going to keep up with 505HP and 3200lbs lol

Never said Z06...

The main problem is that cars now are getting heavier with each generation, the 4th gen F Bodies weigh more (or even the same) even with a 140lb weigh break for the LS1 motors. Ditto for the new Mustangs and obviously the Dodge LX cars are at least 500lbs too heavy.

The only two cars that are at a good weight today are the Corvettes and the new 370Z. Obviously the 370Z has no real power upside, unless you want to spend a bundle to turbo it.

I think that an optimized 3500lb car with a 425hp V8 would give the base 6.2L LS3 Vette a run for its money - maybe a tenth or three slower in the 1/4 mile. Certainly better than a 540hp mustang that barely keeps up.

Oh I see, but either way, the ls3 is pushing about the same power and would still weight less, i guess 300-400 lbs is about .3 - .4 seconds. sounds reasonable, idk what dodges problem is,

i persoanlly love the body style of the challenger, i was messing around with the RT version the other day, i was reving up at about 30 mph when he stomped it and so did i, but my kick down wasn't hooked up yet so i just stayed in 3rd, it was lame, if i'da shifted down i think it would have been a better run, he just tore away from me, what does the RT run in the QM? cause i still think i would have lost, i think i would only run a mid 14...

iw ant to run one from a dig. there was one at the 1/8 mile about a month back when i went with some friends, but it only made one pass, i forgot what it ran. it left shortly after. it was orange with black stripes, also had
silver 5 spoke wheels

The RT version?

Yea, it was the big dog R/T
sounded stock

Saw an SRT8 Challenger at the 1/8th mile track awhile back, ran well into the 8's with a fair amount of tire spin.

Dan

they were prolly both v-6's. you gotta understand that most ppl have never actually drivien a car with power. so they get a v6 charger or challenger that has a 250 hp v6 and think they are damn nascar drivers.

the ones i raced on the hiway were no v6's they sounded mean, like cutouts with 3 in exhaust. but they was still slow

well your car sounds like it'd be quick. they might have only had a 5.7 litre hemi. I dunno i wasnt there. I know peeps in cali will put a loud exhuast on anything

i will not let a chick in my bird unless this is the case..

challengers are greatly overrated nice kill

and idk.. the gen 1 camaro wasnt exactly a light car (not sure on real weight) but i remember reading the 396 camaro could place a 13 down with dead stock **** manifolds and exhaust and a th350. when it comes to muscle cars weight really never got down low until our gen and the fox. a 3800 lb charger seems about right considering they wanted to make it look simular to its 90-70s predicessor witch weight maybe 200 lbs more

ive been seeing them alot more on the roads.
saw a blue one with black stripes on the hood and a HEMI chrome emblem.
i do like the gas cap they come with

i assume that you say this assuming that they were v6's because he crushed them so bad???... take a quick look at the motor he is running in his 00' its by no means slow the 00 ss stock can stand alone with a 09 challenger.. he crushed them because he has a big mean lsx in it not cuz they were v6....


btw do they even make v6 challengers?? can 250 hp even move them ????

I bet even my little 2.8 camaro could beat those with some simple bolt ons.

really? my 66 chevII 406,4spd,bench seat,4:10 12bolt, rear seat delet,weight..2900# with me in it...and 4 wheel drum brakes also 69 Z28,DZ302,4spd,heater&radio delet,12 bolt, big gas tank....3000#.

it would be cool if they came as base v6. alot more ppl would buy them, i would seriously would like to buy a v6 one day and swap in a ls,
f$ck i would swap in a ls into a viper if i found a roller for cheep one day. i would go buy some lotto tickets as well

Nice kill, I don't know why everybody is so jones'd to street race their new cars. I stomped a hemi dodge ram when they first came out and the guy was like but its a Hemi and you just have a beat up Camaro.

I really just don't like street racing, i hit 140 racing a stang, brought it back down to 60 (on a 2 lane) and met a cop. my car handles for crap at speed anyways to much front end rake. they really have to pester me to get me to bite.

I wont even race my diesel on the street... i got nothing to prove, actually I drive faster when no ones looking.

BTW THAT LS IN A VIPER THING WAS BLASPHEMY, just saying LOL

i know, but hey i can machine, assemble and swap a ls into just about anything.
i dont think i would ever find a viper v10 for cheep, comparing to a 6.0 ls engine.
im also not a big fan of roll racing, thats y im building my 3rd gen.
they get so much disrespect by just about everybody on the street. everybody expects some bolt ons tpi.
the lt1 guys are pretty bad, and so are the mustang guys.seems like they hate 3rd gens. the most. i dont know why so many ppl look down on 3rd gens. most of the mustang guys i know or meet usually have more negative things to say. they always bring up the 305 motors.

thats why i added 101 cubes to mine

really??? thats interesting considering the third gen is known as the lightest of all camaros...and we still weigh over 3k so i would love to know what you took out of your z28 to get it down that low.. also considering my fathers 69 ss with a light aluminum ls2 swap in it weighs 3700 (took it out last night to the truck weigh station cuz i got interested in their weight after my post) ill take it out and take a pic of it on the scale and the numbers if you would like

i want to see pics of ls2 69 ss
this older guy in my sis neighborhood has 69 with a inline 6 and 4 spd.
im putting away to show up with a big box of cash to see if he will let it go
its in a 9-10 condition. appliance white with rally wheels

anyone looking for bone stock 99 m6 z28? 6k$

LSx FTW nice kill

k just pics???. n i think hes got it on ebay for like 32k lol its not stupid fast its just the ls2 other than a cold air and cat back exhaust its stock.. 3.23 rears n a garbage th400 (not entirely sure what he was thinking there my dad doesnt think things through) oh yeah and he welded the motor mounts in because he rambled something baout being too much of a hassle..

actually its said first gens and third gens are the closest in size and weight
3200 to 3400 is not uncommon

3000is hard with the driver in it=really hard
third gen v6 and manual can get to 29?? lbs empty

i realized as i read this post above i weighed my dads car with me in it.. im 240 lbs i id probably give another 30 lbs to the subs and amp in the back.. so the car weighs around 3300 i was wrong i apologize . but still if it weighs 3300 lbs with an aluminum v8 what did it weigh back when the iron v8 was in it???. and yeah i read articles about them being curb weight of 3100 and even some rediculous 2900.. but remember in the late 60's early 70s many car companies false advertized. ford had its 429 rated at 430crank hp. when nowadays they have found those motors stock to produce upwards of 500. ive read many companies did this too keep their cars within a certain class. who knows what they said about other issues such as weight. not trying to knock any company even ford but back then there wasnt a greedy guy with a lawyer ready to sue for a false weight on his car

my 89 rs weighs mroe than my 68 dodge charger with a big block. that sure suprised me when i found that out.

yeah some are downright pigs!!!

2983 empty for my V6 third gen. I weigh 215 lb so I'm barely under 3200.

I wish my car weighed that much haha. MY car weighs 3680 with me in it. I weigh 200lbs.

yup they sure do, some kid in town got one, and guess what? its a v6 and an automatic, its like manlaw, if your gonna get a muscle car make it a v8 and a standard.

some kid, that right there sez it will be awhile before he even get basic mods, trying to pay the note and insurance will be prolly be a handful.

i would still drive the hell out of it.