okay so theres a **** at my school. hes got a 95-99 mitshu eclipse and its either got and i-4 putting out 140hp or an i-4 putting out 210hp. and i have my 1989 camaro RS 2.8 v6. and he thinks cuz my car is heavier he would win a drag/"street race". im not sure maybe one of you could tell me. my car is stock his shoould be stock inless he has a turbo (not completely impossible). help me out??

with the V6 rs, you will prob lose

BTW if your bone stock you got 135 hp and 160 ft lb tq

Yea he would probably win, but your car still looks cooler than his

i agree completely. hey what would you recomend to give me a boost over him that i could do by myself and doesnt involve removing my trans or engine. like maybe a sporty eshaust to im prove the amount of rpms im getting something like that??

Yea totally a good set of headers and an exhaust system can do wonders and so can a good tune. If that does not work you could also try slashing his tires or possibly ramming his car

Just tell him your starter died and you can't make the race, better to lie than to lose (lol)

headers?? and putting on a new exhaust or headers couldnt damage my engine could it???

not at all!

Is your 2.8 a manual or automatic?

Well for starters taking out your engine or tranny is probably not a good way to win a race





I kid I kid lol. You could maybe try getting some racing slicks to help your launch. Expensive, and you'd wanna take them off right after the race... but it might help. I've heard mixed things about using em on the street. Depends on the tire, but still i would take em off right afterwards

That eclipse is a 2nd gen DSM. Im an long time owner of a mean 1g. I also have a 84 z28. If he is a GST (turbo FWD) or GSX(turbo all-wheel drive) your toast...even if hes stock. If not...i still think he has you, but not by near as much. Find out if is turbo or not. Best of luck to you.

He's lighter with more hp either way, and prolly has 2000 more rpm in every gear. Whatever you do don't start talking crap on his car cause i'm sure it'll take yours.
just my 2 cents

ya ive tried that one... i nearly cried

That is FUNNY! LOL

Stock vs. stock you'll lose with that crap V6 motor. No offense either.

But your car is better looking & cooler than his, so you do beat him on that.

bro don't trip. I have a 89 2.8 and I go neck and neck with my homies 93 sc400 v8 aka (lexus) I have some pacesetter headers, magnaflow cat, dynomax s.t. (so it's not to loud), custom cold air intake, jet stage 2 chip (and yes it works), jet tcc lock delay module (for 700r4) and 180 thermo. It's a beast of a v6. I call the 2.v8. I haven't had it dyno tuned or tested but I should be pushing about 180hp. especially to keep up with a 205hp sc400.
So don't get discouraged.

I can't see any stock/near stock v6 camaro beating a stock 4 cylinder eclipse...

Sorry to bring you back to reality...but I don't see how headers and full exhaust, custom CAI, and a chip will net you 50+ hp. Your stock cylinder heads won't allow it, and that's only the most obvious of reasons why.

Lets face it, the 2.8 is quick but falls short quite quickly (like after 35-45mph). I don't see it beating a newer "sports" car, even if it's a 4 cylinder. You won't have any top end. A 2.8 needs plenty of work (fabrication) and/or money thrown at it to beat most cars. I have a 2.8, and I don't expect any actual power increase except with a motor swap, like a 3.4. Even that will be minimal.

To the OP, don't expect a win. But also don't make an excuse you won't run, race him and just have fun, win or lose. Then make that car your goal to beat.

U will lose, my buddy has raced me three times in his 1995 cold air intake, 5 spd eclipse, base engine, I have beat him all three times, but these little cars are pretty quick with manual trannys, and he's able to keep up with me, we've only raced from rolls, but the point I'm tryin to get at is ur v6 won't be able to beat any version of the eclipse

hey not to come off mean or nothing, but I never said that he would beat the eclispe. trust me I know what they can, especially if its awd. I'm just saying that his car has a lot of potential that alot of people don't know it has. cuz most people see a v6 and bamn, here comes the 350. just like that. but in all reality there is one 3rd gen v6 that could hang with the eclispe and that TA 2.8 TT. Now those damn things are fast when tweeked.
But simply I was just telling him not to be discouraged that's all. cuz the little iron heads can be given the hp of a base 305 if not a little more, with just bolt ons. when I have my car dynoed and tuned I'll post up the chart. but yeah....

the engines been completely rebuilt. the previous owner aka my (sis) blew the engine and knock a hole in the crank and cam. it's been remachined and the heads shaved down all because of that. and the engine itself can take up to 400hp before it cracks.
just my 2 cents on what the engine can take.=)