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Old 06-18-2009, 01:59 AM   #1
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Turbo Cobalt

A friend of mine just picked up an 08 Cobalt SS/TC and I know the first thing he is going to want to do is to race my Camaro. His car should be bone stock, I'll list the what I have:

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you will definately beat him off the line by a few cars, but with a turbo and a lighter car he may have you at the end, and thats not in the 1/4 but in a longer race
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Re: Turbo Cobalt

a guy on one of my other forums has one has ran a best of mid-high 14s but thats with no traction so....i would say if he can drive and its from a roll it may be close but i think that you may edge him out.
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They do have a "cheater launch" (hit a button and floor it and it will hold at the optimal rpm, or so he says it has it), where as I am probably going to have to work to not spin the tires. On my side I can drive, he cannot. Ill have to race him before he learns to drive.
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If he can drive, I would say he has you.
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Yeah ts called launch control...basicly its a 2 step
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They do have a "cheater launch" (hit a button and floor it and it will hold at the optimal rpm, or so he says it has it), where as I am probably going to have to work to not spin the tires. On my side I can drive, he cannot. Ill have to race him before he learns to drive.
Yep and the same function allows you to keep it floored while shifting so you don't lose boost and it won't over rev. I'm thinking if he can drive he'll have you.

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Re: Turbo Cobalt

Those things are quick for being basically a commuter car. Even the LTs have some quickness to them (fiance used to own one). There is someone here I often line up next to on the highway with an SS, but it's not the turbocharged one. Makes my car look like it's standing still. I should have my Firebird up though. Which has a 350 or 400, I don't know yet, have to tear it apart and find out. But yeah, it should be close, but I believe you've got him. Just remember, those SSs are putting out more horsepower per cubic inch than a Corvette. And since he can't drive, you're good, just go out and have fun, he'll more than likely miss second or third.
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Yeah i have a friend that bought. 06 sc ss when they first came out and i had just bought my 98 camaro 3.8 v6 with the y87 package with auto and from a dig i had him every time till about 70 or 80. He would dump the clutch at a stupid rpm and spin then miss second everytime!
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What kind of race would I have the best chance of winning? 'Cause if i cannot have a faster car I want to at least have the illusion of having the faster car.
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I say from a dig but make sure you can launch that thing good!
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If he can drive, I would say he has you.
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What kind of race would I have the best chance of winning? 'Cause if i cannot have a faster car I want to at least have the illusion of having the faster car.
You do not want to run from a roll...I don't think it'd be pretty.
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Go from a dig. If you're doing a 1/4 mile, you should come out on top. From a roll, you're more than likely beat.
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I took a ride in that car and it s l o w off the line, even with the launch control being used I could easily pull him in my dd '97 Sable off the line. It has a good passing gear but other than that the SS/TC really doesn't have much/
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Those little suckers can catch you after the launch pretty surprisingly. With my 2.8, I beat one on a launch, only to have him pass me like I'm standing still (as stated before) and him to mess with me to go faster. Your 350 shouldn't have a problem at a dig. Just go out there and have fun, and if you lose, at least it's by a fellow Chevy, and not a Prius.
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I took a ride in that car and it s l o w off the line, even with the launch control being used I could easily pull him in my dd '97 Sable off the line. It has a good passing gear but other than that the SS/TC really doesn't have much/


From what I have seen, they will run high 13's and trap at or a little above 100mph. They're no slouches.
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Oh, maybe he's trying to get you to think it's not as fast as it really is! Careful, they're quick grocery getters! Remember, they're Chevy! Not a gasket-bursting Japanese car (lots of them around here on the side of the road)
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it should be a really close race, like everyone else said i would go from a dig and run a 1/4, if hes a skilled driver you may not be able to beat him but you will definately give him a good run. good luck and hopefully youll come out on top
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I took a ride in that car and it s l o w off the line, even with the launch control being used I could easily pull him in my dd '97 Sable off the line. It has a good passing gear but other than that the SS/TC really doesn't have much/

he doesnt know how to drive it then.
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