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ok so my girl was driving us to my buddys house (since i have a suspended license) and we pull up at a red light. and this light always takes forever and its up hill after the light. we were sitting there for about 2 min and this 92 civic hatch pulled up next to us on the passenger side and revved his lil coffee can and pointed at the light. i look over at my girl and was like do u want to, and she just smiles, puts it in netural and revvs is a lil then drops it to first. i look over at the guy and smiles threw up the peace sign, he revvs a lil more and light turns green. she floors the car hard ( remember we are going up hill) making the back tires break free. he was able to keep up with us till we hit second, then the camaro starts pullin hard on this civic. and you could really tell he was trying cause his civic was loud as hell and he hit the rev limiter every shift. but he had no chance, peace sign still out the window when we hit drive(D) and we were about 5 car lengths ahead of him by that point so i tell her to let off and put it in OD. then he catches up to us at the next light. and was yelling out the window that he wants a rematch cause he missed second gear when i clearly heard him catch it, not like you could miss it with that coffee can hanging on the back. so this time light turns green and we take off in 2nd and our tires grab traction so before we are threw the intersection we already have a car length on him we keep going and the length between the cars just gets bigger. so again she lets off and he comes flying up to us. we are doing about 50 now and in OD again. he catches up and wants to do a roll on race. i hear his horn beep 3 times but he takes off on the second beep i drop the car to second and tell her to floor it, we hit drive and caught him then while we are door to door i look at him and laughand pull far ahead.. and finally he leaves us alone and we get to the sheetz gas station and pull in up to a pump and as im pumping guess who shows up... the honda, he pulls up next to my car and was like wtf!!! do u have under that hood? i was full into it and couldnt do a damn thing to stop u from passing me. i was like "nutting much just a good old chevy v8. his face just droped he was like i put over 8 grand into my civic and u ate it up like u where on a street bike. he pops his hood and all u can see is chrome and light and a lil turbo and blowoff valve and what not. i said to him well that looks nice but we both know who won back there and just to let u know you got beat by my girlfriend who was driving. he got red in the face and i did all i could do to stop laughing. as we were leaving i rolled down my window and said " you should have bought a chevy"..
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1991 Camaro RS convertible.
*mods list*... 305 TBI with ported heads and intake, flowmaster exaust, underdrive pulley kit, B&M stage 2 shiftkit in 700R4, hypertech chip,fiberglass turbo hood, 3.73 rear gears still in box. www.cardomain.com/ride/3363875
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lol not only did he get his a** handed to him by Chevy, he also got it handed to him while your g/f was driving. Props to her for the kill and to you for the build.
Your license was suspended and you're enjoying it so much that your girlfriend wants to have hers suspended too? LOL... and a race should never include being in overdrive AT ALL, let alone being in overdrive at 50MPH! Same goes for starting in second gear (which really didn't matter anyway since your transmission would select 1st gear if you floor it from a stop no matter what gear you "select" on an automatic). You really need to learn how a transmission works and go to a track for your racing so you're allowed to drive on the streets. You're a danger to yourself and others.
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Your license was suspended and you're enjoying it so much that your girlfriend wants to have hers suspended too? LOL... and a race should never include being in overdrive AT ALL, let alone being in overdrive at 50MPH! Same goes for starting in second gear (which really didn't matter anyway since your transmission would select 1st gear if you floor it from a stop no matter what gear you "select" on an automatic). You really need to learn how a transmission works and go to a track for your racing so you're allowed to drive on the streets. You're a danger to yourself and others.
Couldn't agree more. It seems you may not need a japanese car to be a *****.
Your license was suspended and you're enjoying it so much that your girlfriend wants to have hers suspended too? LOL... and a race should never include being in overdrive AT ALL, let alone being in overdrive at 50MPH! Same goes for starting in second gear (which really didn't matter anyway since your transmission would select 1st gear if you floor it from a stop no matter what gear you "select" on an automatic). You really need to learn how a transmission works and go to a track for your racing so you're allowed to drive on the streets. You're a danger to yourself and others.
isnt this area called Theoretical and Street Racing? isnt this the area to post up your storys about it?? if you dont like hearing about street racing then stay the **** out of this thread area. it was 3am and we were the only cars on the road and we didnt break 80mph on a completly straight road out in the middle of nowhere so how am i a danger to others if theres noone around. and i only put it in OD because there was no point to keep going he was so far behind us and thats the cruising gear. am i wrong??? and idk about your car but my car still accels in OD so idk what your problem is and i put the shift kit and 5in tach with shift light in my car to be able to use it.. i like shifting on my own but wasnt lucky enough to find a manual camaro and havent had the time or parts to switch it. and u cant tell me that youve never "raced" someone off the track and if u do i gatta call the bs card on u.. if u dont like my story then shut the **** up and move on to another thread.. im sorry for my mouth but damn grow some balls man
Last edited by quickkris2006; 07-29-2009 at 05:18 PM.
and on a tbi to? nice going man. you must have a hell of a lot of mods. i know they were at 170HP from factory, but that still wouldnt beat a turbo honda. congrats to your gf too. she should get her own little third gen toy! ammirite?
Not surprisingly you missed the point. You have a suspended license, so you make your girlfriend drive. She races but you shift?? You have no idea how an auto trans works. Overdrive is not a "cruising gear". It is not useful in any race until you have hit redline in 3rd.
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Not surprisingly you missed the point. You have a suspended license, so you make your girlfriend drive. She races but you shift?? You have no idea how an auto trans works. Overdrive is not a "cruising gear". It is not useful in any race until you have hit redline in 3rd.
exactly. I aso love the logic that because an otherwise responsible message board decided to have a ridiculously irresponsible street racing section somehow makes street racing not dangerous, irresponsible and stupid. It's disgusting that people come here to receive praise for stupid behaviors. I'd love to hear the story about why the original poster's license was suspended too.
ok first off my license was suspened because i got stoped over a license plate light out of state and my insurace card was 2 days out of date. the cop towed my car leaving me to walk god knows how far. i got the car out of inpound and put the bulb in and wasnt able to make it to court because it was out of state. they suspended my license even tho i had insurance and had to show proof of it to get the car out of inpound.. im in middle of a lawsuit with them over it and should have it back in a week. and as for overdrive not being a cruising gear wtf are u talking about. isnt that the gear u put it in to drive with an automatic????? so in other words the CRUISING GEAR... its the last gear to go to.. i only use the gears in an automatic when im "racing" other then that it stays in OD.. and like stated in the story it only goes into overdrive after we let off and he catches up.. and im not saying that street racing is safe but this is the section that u come to to post about it... if u dont like it stay out of the section. no one forced you to read this post. you did it on your own free will. there are hundreds of street racing storys on here to read all pretty much the same.. if you dont like street racing then dont read them.. theres no reason for u to put my story down when there are hundreds more of them..
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1991 Camaro RS convertible.
*mods list*... 305 TBI with ported heads and intake, flowmaster exaust, underdrive pulley kit, B&M stage 2 shiftkit in 700R4, hypertech chip,fiberglass turbo hood, 3.73 rear gears still in box. www.cardomain.com/ride/3363875
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LT1 intake manifold brand new used for mock up
heat painted red and black tpi setup -wireing harness pm me if interested
ok man, I'll leave your thread alone. I don't come to this part of thirdgen often and when I do it's usually to have a good laugh at some of the more clueless board members like Shwinny. That kid cracks me up :-) I just reread through your original post and the part about the gas station encounter really cracks me up. I don't rmember seeing that part before, did you just add it?
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You have no idea how an auto trans works. Overdrive is not a "cruising gear". It is not useful in any race until you have hit redline in 3rd.
I have to agree with quickkris that the overdrive is a cruising gear as stated in wikipedia
Overdrive An overdrive is a device which was commonly used in automobiles to allow the choice of an extra-high overall gear ratio for high speed cruising, thus saving fuel, at the cost of less torque.
Also be advise that unless one's car has been modified and tuned to shift at the engines redline it is better to shift before it reaches this point as most stock options start losing power (in tq and HP) at that rpm
Not surprisingly you missed the point. You have a suspended license, so you make your girlfriend drive. She races but you shift?? You have no idea how an auto trans works. Overdrive is not a "cruising gear". It is not useful in any race until you have hit redline in 3rd.
overdrive is a cruising gear thats what its made for you need to learn about automatic transmissions and street racing is only dangerous if you don't know how to pay attention to what your doing your a j***a**
da.slyboy and freebird87 very much at least someone on here has some common sence.
Z2EIGHT- yes the 305 can do work it just need a lil help.check my mods list. its not much but it does the job.and his turbo was from what i saw small. it looked like he put more money into chrome under the hood then what matters
da.slyboy and freebird87 very much at least someone on here has some common sence.
Z2EIGHT- yes the 305 can do work it just need a lil help.check my mods list. its not much but it does the job.and his turbo was from what i saw small. it looked like he put more money into chrome under the hood then what matters
Yep the 305 is def. a motor to not be under estimated. My buddy with a 350 learned that the hard way when i got my rs and the rs was stock lol.
I'm not sure whether OD is different for auto transmissions, but for manual transmissions the OD, overdrive gear, or the gear less than a 1:1 is most definitely used for both cruising and economy (economy's the reason why they were included in a manual transmission). It is quite obviously not a racing gear because there is no noticeable torque multiplication which you feel in first or second gear (3.25-2.25:1 ratios). It is a gear (average being perhaps .75:1) that is used to keep the RPM's lower at higher speeds. But I'm only speaking for manual transmissions here, some autos have what are called "continuously variable transmissions" or CVT which has no specific ratio and has unlimited ratios available.
And I dislike this sections of the forums mainly because it seems to filled with mostly young guys that think they're bad *** because their cars can beat hondas and acuras. Just because your car goes fast doesn't mean anything about yourself. The bottom line is racing should not occur on the street.
But I can get as mad as I want and "flame" all I want and I will always be out of place doing so here. Because it's a theoretical and STREET racing board. The keyword here men is "STREET racing". As much as we don't like it, we can't read through these posts and complain about guys posting about their street racing wins, because it's a section of the forums specifically for STREET racing.
was it a single overhead cam civic or dual overhead cam civic
Some website says the '92 hatchback civic said it was a single overhead cam, I'm not sure when they swapped over to DOHC, it would make sense that it occurred when they created their famous VTEC, which essentially is variable cam timing.
not too sure if it wad single or double like i said we were headed to a buddys house and only stoped to get gas. we were only talking for like 3 or 4 mins. if i see him around again i will ask
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1991 Camaro RS convertible.
*mods list*... 305 TBI with ported heads and intake, flowmaster exaust, underdrive pulley kit, B&M stage 2 shiftkit in 700R4, hypertech chip,fiberglass turbo hood, 3.73 rear gears still in box. www.cardomain.com/ride/3363875
Parts For sale
LT1 intake manifold brand new used for mock up
heat painted red and black tpi setup -wireing harness pm me if interested
great kill, and hope you had great sex (or whatever it is you kids do these days) afterwords.
look guys, about the OD.
if you have it floored, a 700r4 will NEVER GO INTO OVERDRIVE... no matter what.
in fact, most will not go into OD at anything more than 33% throttle.
that being said, if the governer says that you should be in third, and the shifter is in OD, then you are in third. regardless of what you may think, putting the car in a certain gear only means you will only go as high as that gear. not that you cant go lower...
besides, if you are flooring it, and run out of revs in 3rd, you are going over 120 mph anyway.
that is pretty daggon fast, and he says he never broke 80...
i think we can let this OD thing go...
agreed?
OD is for economy at higher speeds, not cruising a blvd. I took it in the context that he didn't seem to have a clue about his transmission. Technically its just 4th gear. I'm sorry if i took something away from your great kill (that you weren't driving for). I have nothing against street racing when done by people with a clue. To be frank you sound like a dumbass punk kid, with no experience. The kind that gived hot rodders a bad name. Once again i apologize, but you really have a lot to learn aout your car.
__________________ 1984 Camaro Z-28
383/ Hurst shifted Tremec TKO/ Commander 950/Holley Stealth Ram/
AFR 190's/Comp Roller/SLP 1 3/4 to full SLP System
9 Bolt Posi/ 3.27/ 4 Wheel Disk/Moog IROC Springs/Moroso panhard bar/Spohn SFC's/Tokico Illuminas/PST Polygraphite
140 amp alternator/wonder bar.
Moroso Panhard Rod/serpentine drive/Innovate WBO/More to Come.............
sounds like a battle of the SLOW.. don't know why anyone would brag about beating a civic its an old ladys car..VTEC..lmao!
92-95 Civic EG Hatches are very light. Lighter than most tuner cars from what I've picked up. Add a turbo application and you end up with a fun little car (if you did it right). Seeing how his is a worked 305 TBI in a much larger/heavier car, most of us are impressed.
OD is for economy at higher speeds, not cruising a blvd
i dont know where you get this idea, but its simply not true.
my car will go into 4th (OD) at speeds as low as 37 mph.
it will also shift into 4th (OD) at 50% throttle thanks to the pin thingy that i had changed at rebuild time.
what it boils down to is that OD is simply another gear that you can shift into when the governer says to.
as for the "torque multiplication" idea, FALSE.
say you have a rear end ratio of 4.11:1 and a third gear of 1:1
your torque multiplication is 4.11
now fourth is 0.7:1 so your multiplication is 2.877
now compare this to a car with 2.73:1 rear gears
third gear (still 1:1) is 2.73, which is less torque than fourth in the other example.
fourth in this case would be 1.911
you can easily see that you can get torque in any gear. and third gear in a 2.73 rear end car is about the same as 4th in a car with 4.11 gears.
the point is that if your power and torque dont change, and your torque multiplication is the same, you will both accelerate at the same speed, regardless of what gear you are in
Good story:
I'm just getting out of my school and I walk out the front doors. I see this guy in a Honda Hatchback (Couldn't tell you years or models as I'm not into imports). He is TEARING his interior apart completely. Dash and everything. I ask the guy if he needs some help and I got some tools in my car. So I try to figure out whats wrong and he says I don't know. I tell him to turn the key and click click click. Which obviously has nothing to do with the interior. I tell him to pop the hood and I was going to check the battery contacts. Batteries not there so I ask the guy where his battery is. He trys to talk like he knows everything about a car on how he bought a battery relocation kit for better traction (Isn't it a FWD so you want it up front?) So I check the battery and his explanation on a battery relocation kit, and I am not lying, IS A FREAKIN SHOEBOX. I was shocked. So I am thinking I am going to blow this guy off cause he has god knows how many problems. Did I mention that he had a sub and amb just chillin back there. Sub wasn't even in a box and the amp was hanging by zip ties so everytime he turned it probably banged against the window. Lol. Well anyway I tell him I'll brb to try jumping his car. I bring my camaro over there and I watch as his jaw drops cause you can tell he thought I was just some high school student that didn't know anything. I hook up the jumper cables to my camaro and he hooks it up directly. I show him how to safely hook up the cables by grounding the negative rather than to the negative terminal to the chargee. So the car starts and after a big discussion on how electricty works and why it is good to ground and such, what does the guy do? He unhooks his car from the battery and touches them together. Theres a big spark and he drops the cables. Few more sparks, my car shuts down and I move the cables apart. I turn bright red and pissed. I start cussin and ****. I'm not a big guy and this guy is a high school drop out nerd that thinks he is cool. I'm about to knock the living **** out of him and 2 administrators come out. I'm still cussing about how much of a dumb **** this guy is and the guy sits there with his tail in his legs. The adminstrator tells me to go see if my car starts and I am still yellin at the guy calling him names and such. I turn it over and it doesn't start. By this point the guy is getting in his car and I tell him not to go anywhere. Lol heres the best part, as he drives away I see him stall out at a stop sign!!! Well I check the ECM fuse by the battery holder. It had one of those Glows when it blows fuses and all I could think at this point is blowing that honda to timbucktu. It was glowing and I switched it with a fuse from a spare alarm system I had lying in the car. The adminstrators left and the guy actually had the nerve to ask for another jump. I laughed and told him to pop the clutch. He said huh? he began to say "what is" then I peeled out from anger lol.
JTNKTZ-damn funny. I would've been tempted to kick his *** too.
quickrls-awesome story. I would've turned to her and said "I have never found you more attractive." lol
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Good story:
I'm just getting out of my school and I walk out the front doors. I see this guy in a Honda Hatchback (Couldn't tell you years or models as I'm not into imports). He is TEARING his interior apart completely. Dash and everything. I ask the guy if he needs some help and I got some tools in my car. So I try to figure out whats wrong and he says I don't know. I tell him to turn the key and click click click. Which obviously has nothing to do with the interior. I tell him to pop the hood and I was going to check the battery contacts. Batteries not there so I ask the guy where his battery is. He trys to talk like he knows everything about a car on how he bought a battery relocation kit for better traction (Isn't it a FWD so you want it up front?) So I check the battery and his explanation on a battery relocation kit, and I am not lying, IS A FREAKIN SHOEBOX. I was shocked. So I am thinking I am going to blow this guy off cause he has god knows how many problems. Did I mention that he had a sub and amb just chillin back there. Sub wasn't even in a box and the amp was hanging by zip ties so everytime he turned it probably banged against the window. Lol. Well anyway I tell him I'll brb to try jumping his car. I bring my camaro over there and I watch as his jaw drops cause you can tell he thought I was just some high school student that didn't know anything. I hook up the jumper cables to my camaro and he hooks it up directly. I show him how to safely hook up the cables by grounding the negative rather than to the negative terminal to the chargee. So the car starts and after a big discussion on how electricty works and why it is good to ground and such, what does the guy do? He unhooks his car from the battery and touches them together. Theres a big spark and he drops the cables. Few more sparks, my car shuts down and I move the cables apart. I turn bright red and pissed. I start cussin and ****. I'm not a big guy and this guy is a high school drop out nerd that thinks he is cool. I'm about to knock the living **** out of him and 2 administrators come out. I'm still cussing about how much of a dumb **** this guy is and the guy sits there with his tail in his legs. The adminstrator tells me to go see if my car starts and I am still yellin at the guy calling him names and such. I turn it over and it doesn't start. By this point the guy is getting in his car and I tell him not to go anywhere. Lol heres the best part, as he drives away I see him stall out at a stop sign!!! Well I check the ECM fuse by the battery holder. It had one of those Glows when it blows fuses and all I could think at this point is blowing that honda to timbucktu. It was glowing and I switched it with a fuse from a spare alarm system I had lying in the car. The adminstrators left and the guy actually had the nerve to ask for another jump. I laughed and told him to pop the clutch. He said huh? he began to say "what is" then I peeled out from anger lol.
Last time I ever help a honda out.
Reason why honda's don't mix with muscle car culture.
i dont know where you get this idea, but its simply not true.
my car will go into 4th (OD) at speeds as low as 37 mph.
it will also shift into 4th (OD) at 50% throttle thanks to the pin thingy that i had changed at rebuild time.
what it boils down to is that OD is simply another gear that you can shift into when the governer says to.
as for the "torque multiplication" idea, FALSE.
say you have a rear end ratio of 4.11:1 and a third gear of 1:1
your torque multiplication is 4.11
now fourth is 0.7:1 so your multiplication is 2.877
now compare this to a car with 2.73:1 rear gears
third gear (still 1:1) is 2.73, which is less torque than fourth in the other example.
fourth in this case would be 1.911
you can easily see that you can get torque in any gear. and third gear in a 2.73 rear end car is about the same as 4th in a car with 4.11 gears.
the point is that if your power and torque dont change, and your torque multiplication is the same, you will both accelerate at the same speed, regardless of what gear you are in
No, no no, you misunderstand I was referring to it from a transmission standpoint, no final drive ratio was calculated in. I was explaining it from the the input to the output shaft.
And you're wrong about the "Torque multiplication being the same". It changes in every gear, in first gear you have lots of torque (hence the reason why people burn out in first gear) but have low vehicle speed. Otherwise you could start the car from a stop in every gear.
JTNKTZ: My hat's off to you for not pounding that guy. I am a bigger guy, and he would not have walked away had he done that to me. One of the reasons why I don't let anyone touch the cables or cars if I do a jumpstart, if they don't want to let me do it they don't need my help.
QuickKris: Good story. Always makes me smile when my wife comes home with a kill story in her Formula.
JTNKTZ: man idk what i would have done to that guy if that was my car. but i know i keep a 3ft metal prybar in my car for such times. if u see me in town feel free to flag me down man. im thee only vert in town with a cowl hood. and now i actually think im the only green vert in town cause i havent seen the one that was the same as mine sitting in town for months now..
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1991 Camaro RS convertible.
*mods list*... 305 TBI with ported heads and intake, flowmaster exaust, underdrive pulley kit, B&M stage 2 shiftkit in 700R4, hypertech chip,fiberglass turbo hood, 3.73 rear gears still in box. www.cardomain.com/ride/3363875
Parts For sale
LT1 intake manifold brand new used for mock up
heat painted red and black tpi setup -wireing harness pm me if interested
JTNKTZ: man idk what i would have done to that guy if that was my car. but i know i keep a 3ft metal prybar in my car for such times. if u see me in town feel free to flag me down man. im thee only vert in town with a cowl hood. and now i actually think im the only green vert in town cause i havent seen the one that was the same as mine sitting in town for months now..
Lol I carry a bad now, as some guy tryed to rob me at Taco Bell over by the Kmart lol. I scared him away after I hit him with my car lol. Hence why my bumper is all ****ed up.
sounds like a battle of the SLOW.. don't know why anyone would brag about beating a civic its an old ladys car..VTEC..lmao!
not really im sure theres a civic hatch that would beat you they can weigh less then 2000 pounds ive seen a boosted civic DESTROY a zo6 with ease so they can be fast for sure not anywhere near slow, but there still gay.
but nice kill man thats pretty impressive for a tbi good job especialy if it was DOHC which it probly was if he boosted it.
not really im sure theres a civic hatch that would beat you they can weigh less then 2000 pounds ive seen a boosted civic DESTROY a zo6 with ease so they can be fast for sure not anywhere near slow, but there still gay.
but nice kill man thats pretty impressive for a tbi good job especialy if it was DOHC which it probly was if he boosted it.
no really Rick it does sound like a battle of the slow..really..This wasnt a Civic that someone sunk $50K into running 9's it was a an old lady car. Good luck finding a civic with no power addeds that will be taking me out...Why would anyone want to have a civic as a race car..lol.. You can make anything fast with enough money but why would ppl start with a slow a$$ car like a civic.. Last 3 I saw at the track all granaded the trannys by the 60'..too funny
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i personaly think the old civic hatches are one of the best 4 bangers to build simply because they are so ridiculously light and very cheap and easy to build they are not bad all im sayin is nice job instead of tryin to bring him down
if you have it floored, a 700r4 will NEVER GO INTO OVERDRIVE... no matter what.
The one in my 87 IROC would. Hit the top of third, up shift and keep going. It had a B&M shift kit in it, don't remember exactly what was modified in it.
. he was able to keep up with us till we hit second, then the camaro starts pullin hard on this civic. and you could really tell he was trying cause his civic was loud as hell and he hit the rev limiter every shift. but he had no chance, peace sign still out the window when we hit drive(D) and we were about 5 car lengths ahead of him by that point so i tell her to let off and put it in OD. then he catches up to us at the next light. and was yelling out the window that he wants a rematch cause he missed second gear when i clearly heard him catch it, not like you could miss it with that coffee can hanging on the back. so this time light turns green and we take off in 2nd and our tires grab traction so before we are threw the intersection we already have a car length on him we keep going and the length between the cars just gets bigger. so again she lets off and he comes flying up to us. we are doing about 50 now and in OD again. he catches up and wants to do a roll on race. i hear his horn beep 3 times but he takes off on the second beep
i drop the car to second and tell her to floor it, we hit drive and caught him then while we are door to door i look at him and laugh
and pull far ahead.. and finally he leaves us alone and we get to the sheetz gas station and pull in up to a pump and as im pumping guess who shows up... the honda, he pulls up next to my car and was like wtf!!! do u have under that hood? i was full into it and couldnt do a damn thing to stop u from passing me. i was like "nutting much just a good old chevy v8. his face just droped he was like i put over 8 grand into my civic and u ate it up like u where on a street bike. he pops his hood and all u can see is chrome and light and a lil turbo and blowoff valve and what not. i said to him well that looks nice but we both know who won back there and just to let u know you got beat by my girlfriend who was driving. he got red in the face and i did all i could do to stop laughing. as we were leaving i rolled down my window and said " you should have bought a chevy".. 
overdrive is a cruising gear thats what its made for you need to learn about automatic transmissions and street racing is only dangerous if you don't know how to pay attention to what your doing your a j***a** 
very much at least someone on here has some common sence. 
BUY MY CAMARO $2000 or obo CASH need gone make offers 
..Why would anyone want to have a civic as a race car..lol.. You can make anything fast with enough money but why would ppl start with a slow a$$ car like a civic.. Last 3 I saw at the track all granaded the trannys by the 60'..too funny 
