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Old 11-20-2009, 03:10 PM   #1
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Just another "how fast should I go!!?" post :-)

I think I am running way slow here, just wanted to know if you guys think it is all to blame on wheelspin, gearing, or a poor tune. Here we go:

385ci 87+ Gen1 SBC:
4.04"x3.75"
.005" in the hole
.036-.038 quench (I can't recall specifically)
9.5:1 CR

Sportsman II heads:
2.02/1.6
smoothed chambers
deburred/gasket matched runners
5-angle valve job
smoothed valve guides
bowl blending
short turn work

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Lobes are XFI I#3015/E#3016 (yes, both are intake profiles)
274/280 @.006, 224/230 @.050, .544/.540 gross lift.
It think it was ground on a 113 LSA

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Performer RPM clone

Hedman 1 5/8 shorties
3" American Thunder catback (w/ 3" hiflow cat)

HEI w/ 50,000v coil
MSD 6a
8.8mm wires

Built up 700r4 w/ 2400 TCI stall
B&W 9-bolt w/ 3.23s (3.70s sitting in my room for the spring).

I think I had installed the cam 4 degrees retarded, as my powerband seems to be 2500-6500. Depending on how she feels with the 3.70s I am thinking about advancing it back up 4 degrees next year, but since I have traction issues as it is I'm not sure yet. I still have the stock rims and tire-size, running Potenza RE750s, I'm paranoid about running bigger tires and blowing the 9-bolt. I also noticed that my converter seems to actually be stalling closer to 3000 RPMs, which I am guessing is due to the crap 3.23s (thoughts?)

At the track I had almost no traction through most of 1st, spun for a few tire revs into second and barked into third. I've only gotten two runs in on this motor/trans and didn't pay attention to my RPM at the finish line, but it was probably early-midway through 3rd.

Best run was:

RT: 0.2575
60ft: 2.1225
330ft: 5.7646
594ft: 8.2078
1/8th: 8.7495@83.06
1000ft: 11.3470
1/4ft: 13.5576@101.72
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Old 11-21-2009, 12:46 PM   #2
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Re: Just another "how fast should I go!!?" post :-)

That trap speed is pretty indicative of a mid to low 13 second run, usually if a low time is due to wheel spin your trap speed will be way up there. I run mid 13s at anywhere from 99 to 101. You may have something up with your tune, how heavy is your car?
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Re: Just another "how fast should I go!!?" post :-)

What's the elevation at the track? I'm not expert but that trap speed seems REALLY low based on your mods....
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Old 11-22-2009, 12:49 PM   #4
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Re: Just another "how fast should I go!!?" post :-)

"that trap speed seems REALLY low based on your mods...."

I didn't think about the elevation but yeah that and the weight... really though even if the car weighed 3600 pounds and was high up, that's pretty slow. Maybe the cam retard is killing it? Also don't wory about tearing up the 9 bolt, they're pretty tough just keep good fluid in them. ET Streets with about 20 PSI in them will hook up better than any street tire and not hammer the driveline.
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Re: Just another "how fast should I go!!?" post :-)

Quote:
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RT: 0.2575
60ft: 2.1225
330ft: 5.7646
594ft: 8.2078
1/8th: 8.7495@83.06
1000ft: 11.3470
1/4ft: 13.5576@101.72
Your sixty foot is definitely hurting your ET. I can see a high 12 second pass with a good launch....
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Old 11-22-2009, 05:19 PM   #6
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Re: Just another "how fast should I go!!?" post :-)

Thanks for the replies guys. The track isn't far off from sea level, (Thompson Ohio) so I doubt that matters. I would estimate the car at being about 3300lbs. Assuming good traction I was expecting more like mid-to-low 12s from this combo, but to get that I also figured my MPH would be a good bit higher as well.
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Old 11-22-2009, 08:42 PM   #7
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Re: Just another "how fast should I go!!?" post :-)

Just looked back through your specs and noticed you have a 385 not a 355, something's up with that. You should be in the 12's for sure.
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Re: Just another "how fast should I go!!?" post :-)

maybe he has it bored .040 instead of .030
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Old 11-23-2009, 02:09 AM   #9
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She was a 355 in a former life ;-)
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Old 11-24-2009, 11:22 AM   #10
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Re: Just another "how fast should I go!!?" post :-)

"maybe he has it bored .040 instead of .030"

LOL yeah that's probably it... You know, that and the longer stroke crank and such.
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