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easySPEEDcamaro · 10-30-2002, 03:47 PM

So I walk in for my court appointment at 3 pm. I see about 40 other people in the court room. The judge walks in. Basically I heard the same thing 40 times straight:

Judge: "Please approach the bench mr so and so. Please state your name for the record."

Reply: "I am mr so and so."

Prosecutor/Crown: "Unfortunately the officer could not attend today therefore i have no evidence and i ask the case be thrown out"

Judge: "your case is thrown out, charges are dropped".

Same thing happened to EVERYBODY there!

johnyIROC · 10-30-2002, 03:51 PM

Just to let you know... that doesn't always happen. You got lucky.

ClarionedCanuk · 10-30-2002, 04:05 PM

Your a lucky sob like johny said... Also, if its a major offence they will post pone it to another date. Pretty cool that 40 people got off. If the average ticket was $150 thats 6000 bones!
greg

easySPEEDcamaro · 10-30-2002, 04:09 PM

I was just laughing my *** off. I met 3 girls there and started talking to them. They were all telling me how they made stories up that they were going to tell to the judge. Like.. one told me for instance "I got a tail-gating charge. I'm just going to tell the judge that some guy cut me off and I didn't want to slam on the brakes because there was somebody behind me". Literally all 3 girls had some story they thought of. Then when they got called off, and the only thing said to them was "officer not here, no evidence, charges dropped" and the judge said "have a nice day", they would keep a seroius face, say thank you, and when they turned their back to the judge you saw them start laughing pretty much and walk out!

IROC-ZZ4 · 10-30-2002, 04:28 PM

Man your really lucky every time I have gone to court (which has been a LOT) the cops have always been there. Not once has a cop not shown up for one of my cases.. I feel so special

They seem to enjoy throwing me on the BBQ.

easySPEEDcamaro · 10-30-2002, 04:30 PM

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Man your really lucky every time I have gone to court (which has been a LOT) the cops have always been there. Not once has a cop not shown up for one of my cases.. I feel so special They seem to enjoy throwing me on the BBQ.

So what do you do when they show up? Please insanity?

Only reason I went to court is because the guy who gave me the ticket told me to.

When I got there, I felt like an idiot because if they asked "what's your defense" and the cop wasn't there, I'd be like "uh.. duh... cop told me to schedule a court date and he said I wouldn't lose points and my fine would get lowered". But luckily I didn't have to say nothing except for my name!

Mark A Shields · 10-30-2002, 05:59 PM

Congrats, I never went to court on my one ticket, just paid the fine.

trigger GTA · 10-30-2002, 07:08 PM

you should not have even got a court date.
you did it...
you pay for it.
the courts time should not be wasted on little crap like this. you just cost tax paying people like me even more money

good to see you got off

Mark305TBI · 10-30-2002, 07:32 PM

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Originally posted by Mark A Shields
Congrats, I never went to court on my one ticket, just paid the fine.

I've been to court on four out of my five. Got driving school on three of 'em and paid for one of 'em (had to be in court to prove insurance).

Mark A Shields · 10-30-2002, 07:38 PM

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I've been to court on four out of my five. Got driving school on three of 'em and paid for one of 'em (had to be in court to prove insurance).

you stalkin me?

ClarionedCanuk · 10-30-2002, 08:11 PM

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Originally posted by easySPEEDcamaro
I was just laughing my *** off. I met 3 girls there and started talking to them. They were all telling me how they made stories up that they were going to tell to the judge. Like.. one told me for instance "I got a tail-gating charge. I'm just going to tell the judge that some guy cut me off and I didn't want to slam on the brakes because there was somebody behind me". Literally all 3 girls had some story they thought of. Then when they got called off, and the only thing said to them was "officer not here, no evidence, charges dropped" and the judge said "have a nice day", they would keep a seroius face, say thank you, and when they turned their back to the judge you saw them start laughing pretty much and walk out!

easySPEED dont get all cocky now... Those girls and you can laugh all you want but if the cop showed up and the girls story was bs and the cop knew otherwise who do you think would win? Just because they had a story, doesnt mean it would work. Pretty much every guilty person that pleads innocent (which is a surprising amount) has a story, judges, the crown, cops, they kind of learn to tell which ones are bs and which ones are valid.
If you said what you said above to a judge he would laugh in your face and tack on the court fee...
greg

Cruzin Kaz · 10-30-2002, 09:21 PM

Yeah Alex...You got lucky this time! Don't push your luck. Cops love a young punk in a sports car. Slow down and save it for the track before you kill someone, or even yourself. Speed needs to be respected, if not you sooner or later "Crash & Burn!" Don't want to hear you had to learn the hard way. Wheelchairs aren't all what they are cracked up to be. Neither is Jail! Big fellas just love newbies. Bent over just like this little guy :hail:, just not praising. More like screaming.

Slade1 · 10-30-2002, 11:00 PM

lucky sob

Eric2ndGen · 10-31-2002, 03:59 AM

Can't say I have alot of respect for 3 lying bi-aches myself. It's a-holes like this that need to be convicted.

I have no problem with the concept of arguing perspective or witness' details- but when it comes to outright lying- what happened in these people's upbringing? Maybe their parents should have been more involved with child-rearing and not playing golf or what-not.

I hope next time the young ladies have more serious charges to deal with and the officer does decide to make it to court...

KWF · 10-31-2002, 07:57 AM

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Originally posted by easySPEEDcamaro
I was just laughing my *** off.

You do know that often officers have court time when they're supposed to be home with their families... the fact that they didnt' show up likely means they were out WORKING on their time OFF keeping your a$$ safe from dangerous crime.

Show some respect and count your lucky stars.

Mark305TBI · 10-31-2002, 09:09 AM

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Originally posted by Mark A Shields
you stalkin me?

yes, in a desperate attempt to increase my post count I've decided to respond, at least once, to every post that you make. While I may not ever surpass your post count, in a matter of hours I should be the number two poster on the boards!! :maniacal laugh:

:hail: :lala:

easySPEEDcamaro · 10-31-2002, 01:26 PM

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Originally posted by KWF
You do know that often officers have court time when they're supposed to be home with their families... the fact that they didnt' show up likely means they were out WORKING on their time OFF keeping your a$$ safe from dangerous crime.

Show some respect and count your lucky stars.

I understand that but I said I was laughing at the fact that everybody there was trying to come up with a story and was all nervous... and then they just got let off without saying a word...

I didn't have any story. The cop told me to book a court date when I got the ticket. If I had to say something, it would be "well, the officer told me to book a courtdate and he'd make sure I lose no points".

KWF · 10-31-2002, 02:00 PM

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Originally posted by easySPEEDcamaro
I understand that but ...

What did you call this thread? Horrific grammer aside, it was a slam at the system. It may not be perfect, most involved are doing everything they can and more to keep us safe.

You were lucky to get off. That's what I think you should take away from this experience, not how disorganized things were in the court. Unless of course you want to do something about it and help out, whether that be by seeking employment in the Legal branch of the gov't or by keeping your butt out of court.

easySPEEDcamaro · 10-31-2002, 02:10 PM

right... just pretend i never said anything, i forgot you are involved with the law...

easySPEEDcamaro · 10-31-2002, 02:14 PM

i guess i'm just thankful that i got off, and wasn't very impressed at the fact that all 40 officers did not show up, and everybody in the room got off, that's all.

i'm not trying to be an sob or anything, excuse me.

KWF · 10-31-2002, 02:26 PM

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Originally posted by easySPEEDcamaro
right... just pretend i never said anything, i forgot you are involved with the law...

That's not what this is about..

Everytime someone gets a ticket that warrants a court date, there's 2 hours that day that a police officer isnt' out protecting my street, watching my future kids school, recovering stolen cars, putting away drug dealers near those schools rescuing people trapped in automobile accidents and all the 1000's of other things they do...and heaven forbid at home enjoying the company of his or her family.

It raises my taxes and everyone elses, makes people afraid to walk the streets and leave their cars in underground parking lots, allow their kids to walk to school etc... etc... etc...

And suddenly you and the others in the court are the victims here? It's not funny. It's sad, very sad that this is how things have become.

KWF · 10-31-2002, 02:27 PM

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Originally posted by easySPEEDcamaro
i guess i'm just thankful that i got off, and wasn't very impressed at the fact that all 40 officers did not show up, and everybody in the room got off, that's all.

i'm not trying to be an sob or anything, excuse me.

I'll drop it if you do

easySPEEDcamaro · 10-31-2002, 04:18 PM

i didn't anything about everybody in the court being victims

let me ask you something, have you ever gone to court? if you had the option between paying your ticket, losing points and in effect your insurance go up, or scheduling a court date and having it thrown out which would u pick?

i was merely saying that i found it humouring how everybody in the courtroom was all scared walking in, and walked out with a big smirk/smile on their face.

KWF · 10-31-2002, 04:44 PM

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Originally posted by easySPEEDcamaro
i didn't anything about everybody in the court being victims

You said it, just not directly.

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Originally posted by easySPEEDcamaro

let me ask you something, have you ever gone to court? if you had the option between paying your ticket, losing points and in effect your insurance go up, or scheduling a court date and having it thrown out which would u pick?

Simple, dont' do anything that you have to go to court for! I've managed for 30 years just nicely!

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Originally posted by easySPEEDcamaro
i was merely saying that i found it humouring how everybody in the courtroom was all scared walking in, and walked out with a big smirk/smile on their face.

Keep backpedalling, you'll end up in the big pile you started

johnyIROC · 10-31-2002, 05:49 PM

I'm not defending easy here.... but cops are not always right. Sometimes there are actual valid reasons to go to court. I grew up in a small town where the cops were all on a big power trip. It was like playing frickin dukes of hazzard every day.

Since I moved to London I've never had a single problem with the police... but because of my past experiences I still have a hard time looking at them as being there to help me.

copperchick · 10-31-2002, 05:58 PM

I'll probably once again regret having opened my mouth on here, but cops and courts can't do a damn thing about demerit points. Those are outlined by the Ministry. Each HTA charge has a demerit point sum assigned to it. The only way to reduce these is either to be found not guilty or to be found guilty of a lesser offence. You probably just got lucky because it's flu season and we shift workers tend to catch every friggin' bug that's going around. Bully for you.

P.S. By definition, DEMERIT points are something you acquire, not something you lose. Ya might wanna bone up a bit for next time in case you don't get so lucky.

KWF · 10-31-2002, 06:01 PM

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Originally posted by johnyIROC
I'm not defending easy here.... but cops are not always right.

That's true, not arguing that

There are bad people in all professions.

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Sometimes there are actual valid reasons to go to court.

No argument here either

We CAN however avoid getting tickets and going to court and wasting taxpayer's money and all that other stuff by obeying the laws.

Cruzin Kaz · 10-31-2002, 06:03 PM

Now you did it Alex! You pissed of Craig and Tracey. LOL GIve him another ticket Tracey Maybe this one will stick. All though I do have to agree with Johny here Tracey. You lived here in Welland yourself.... SOme of the cops here are real (&%*&(@^ holes. And some are really great people. I guess that goes with anything though. But some of them just power trip! And that is wrong! I am sure that this is not the case with you Tracey, but... it is with alot of others... Just my 2 cents.