Go Back   Third Generation F-Body Message Boards > Tech Boards > TPI
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?

TPI Tuned Port Injection discussion and questions. LB9 and L98 tech, porting, tuning, and bolt-on aftermarket products.

Welcome to ThirdGen.org!
Welcome to ThirdGen.org.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, join the ThirdGen.org community today!


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 04-27-2007, 05:54 PM   #1
Senior Member
 
KamikazeIroccy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Columbia, Missouri
Posts: 546
Car: '87 Iroc-Z
Engine: 355cid Cam'd
Transmission: T5 Manual
Axle/Gears: Stock 9 Bolt

Classifieds Rating: (1)
Send a message via Yahoo to KamikazeIroccy Send a message via Skype™ to KamikazeIroccy
Edelbrock and cam choice

1988 iroc..engine is a 4 bolt main block, scat crank, pm rods, hypereutectic pistons, 383 cu in., edelbrock 60cc performer heads, edelbrock tpi system, comp cam roller rockers, comp cam, polished tall valve covers. All accessories are there except smog pump. New power steering lines, alternater, starter and battery. Engine is fromm enginefactory.com I want something that'll put me in the 400-425 rear-wheel horsepower. any suggestion or setups?
4 Bolt Main, Full Round Seal Block
New Scat CS383 Crankshaft
PM connecting rods
H860CP Hypereutectic Pistons
Sealed Power Chrome Moly Rings
Heavy Duty Double Roller Timing Set
Aluminum fast burn Edelbrock 60cc Chamber cylinder heads #60859 with stainless steel valves, hardened valve locks, chrome moly retainers & HD Valve Springs
Matching Comp Roller Camshaft
Comp Cams Hydraulic Roller Lifters
Federal Mogul Tri-Metal Bearings
New Comp Cams pushrods
Comp Cams Roller Rockers
Edelbrock Intake Base Plate and Runners Manifold #3890
__________________
(Sold)All Free-Mods including MAF N Air Cleaning Housing, Edelbrock TES Headers,Smog Delete,AIR Delete,blocked-off EGR,Hypertech Stage 2 Chip,450hp Built 700R4.....I miss this Car!

Last edited by KamikazeIroccy; 06-13-2007 at 12:34 AM.
KamikazeIroccy is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2007, 06:44 PM   #2
Supreme Member
 
1989GTATransAm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Cypress, California
Posts: 6,324
Car: 1989 GTA
Engine: 369 TPI
Transmission: 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 3.70 Nine Bolt

Classifieds Rating: (3)
Re: Edelbrock and cam choice

One of the bottlenecks will be the Edelbrock TPI manifold. I have mine Extruded Honed and I'm running out of air at the 350rwhp mark. To get to 400rwhp you are going to have to get the runners in the manifold opened up.

Not sure on the Edelbrock heads you have but they need to flow somewhere in the 280cfm range if not more. If you are serious I would send the heads and intake manifold off for professional porting.
1989GTATransAm is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2007, 05:46 PM   #3
Senior Member
 
KamikazeIroccy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Columbia, Missouri
Posts: 546
Car: '87 Iroc-Z
Engine: 355cid Cam'd
Transmission: T5 Manual
Axle/Gears: Stock 9 Bolt

Classifieds Rating: (1)
Send a message via Yahoo to KamikazeIroccy Send a message via Skype™ to KamikazeIroccy
Re: Edelbrock and cam choice

bump
KamikazeIroccy is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2008, 11:34 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
KamikazeIroccy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Columbia, Missouri
Posts: 546
Car: '87 Iroc-Z
Engine: 355cid Cam'd
Transmission: T5 Manual
Axle/Gears: Stock 9 Bolt

Classifieds Rating: (1)
Send a message via Yahoo to KamikazeIroccy Send a message via Skype™ to KamikazeIroccy
Re: Edelbrock and cam choice

bump
KamikazeIroccy is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2008, 12:01 AM   #5
Supreme Member
 
1989GTATransAm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Cypress, California
Posts: 6,324
Car: 1989 GTA
Engine: 369 TPI
Transmission: 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 3.70 Nine Bolt

Classifieds Rating: (3)
Re: Edelbrock and cam choice

To be honest you are not going to make it with those parts. The number one thing is the heads. They don't flow enough cfm to make 400 to 425rwhp. I don't think they are a good choice for a 383.

Next up you did not state what camshaft your are running. You will need a good modern camshaft with at least 230 degrees on the intake at .050" and a lot of lift. A little bigger would not hurt.

The Edelbrock TPI intake manifold will need a lot of work to flow the numbers required for what you want to do. It can be done just money. The crux will be the runners. I don't know of any you can buy that will support that kind of horsepower. SLP's might but will require a lot of work. Your Edelbrock runners might but would also require a ton of work. The factory plenum will work with modification. Maybe a Holly Stealth Ram is in order.

I would want to use a 58mm throttle body. You will need a first class exhaust system such as Dyno Don's 1 3/4" headers, wye pipe with dual cats and a good cat back system.

Don't know what your cold air intake is like but you will need a good one depending on whether a Camaro or a Firebird.

With a 700R4 I think you will need 500hp at the motor to achieve your goal. You will need a good selection of parts and proper assembly.
1989GTATransAm is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2008, 12:21 AM   #6
Senior Member
 
KamikazeIroccy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Columbia, Missouri
Posts: 546
Car: '87 Iroc-Z
Engine: 355cid Cam'd
Transmission: T5 Manual
Axle/Gears: Stock 9 Bolt

Classifieds Rating: (1)
Send a message via Yahoo to KamikazeIroccy Send a message via Skype™ to KamikazeIroccy
Re: Edelbrock and cam choice

yeah, i've since posting this up months ago came to realize this isnt ideal, more like 425HP at the flywheel is what i am aiming for. and i want to use a LT4 hotcam in my 383 stroker. any ideas or thoughts on how i can reach that using the edelbrock intake and runner combo with a ported plenum anyone?
KamikazeIroccy is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2008, 12:38 AM   #7
Supreme Member
 
Orr89RocZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 15,618
Car: 89 Iroc-z
Engine: Twin Turbo 401
Transmission: TH400
Axle/Gears: 4th gen 10 bolt 2.73's

Classifieds Rating: (16)
Send a message via AIM to Orr89RocZ
Re: Edelbrock and cam choice

my thoughts...

Those heads are not much better than L98 aluminums but STILL can make 425hp on crank so your good IF everythign else is right

Flat top pistons and 60 cc heads = WAY too high compression... roughly 11.6 to 1. 2 options..... ditch the heads or ditch the pistons for dished. MAYBE a third option is to have the heads ported and possibly opened up to 65-67cc or so. that be more doable 10.8 to 11 to 1 compression range

hotcam MAY be enough cam for that motor with a fully siamesed/ported TPI setup to achieve 400-425 CRANK hp. I'm thinking thats roughly 330-340 at the wheels. Hotcam 383's have hit 370-380whp with GOOD heads and intakes like miniram/carb manifolds/ or HSR. Else step up to the 230/236 XE grind or CC306. That should easily put you there with those heads IF you keep compression to 10.5-11 to 1
Orr89RocZ is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2008, 11:25 AM   #8
Senior Member
 
KamikazeIroccy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Columbia, Missouri
Posts: 546
Car: '87 Iroc-Z
Engine: 355cid Cam'd
Transmission: T5 Manual
Axle/Gears: Stock 9 Bolt

Classifieds Rating: (1)
Send a message via Yahoo to KamikazeIroccy Send a message via Skype™ to KamikazeIroccy
Re: Edelbrock and cam choice

appreciate it. Thanks You
KamikazeIroccy is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2008, 11:25 AM
ThirdGen
1992 Camaro




Paid Advertisement


Reply

Go Back   Third Generation F-Body Message Boards > Tech Boards > TPI

Tags
350, 3890, 60859, bolt, cam, choice, comp, crankshaft, cs383, cylinder, edebrock, edelbrock, heads, main, porting, review, scat
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

 


1982 Camaro '82 || 1983 Camaro '83 || 1984 Camaro '84 || 1985 Camaro '85 || 1986 Camaro '86 || 1987 Camaro '87 || 1988 Camaro '88 || 1989 Camaro '89 || 1990 Camaro '90 || 1991 Camaro '91 || 1992 Camaro '92


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:52 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright © 1997 - 2012 ThirdGen.org. All rights reserved. No part of this website may be reproduced without the expressed, documented, and written consent of ThirdGen.org's Administrators.

Emails & Contact Details