sorry to double post but i also just relized that the balnacer i tought had slipped actually didnt. aparently thats how its made with a lip showing. i just lookat at the same one on summit...

humm well crap. at least it wasent any lighter then the one i put on.
still im puzzled as to why my power is now suffering from setting the timing and im 99.9% sure that the timing mark is in the right spot. like i said the idle speed is the exact same as it was before. but my performance. is deffinatly kicked down a noctch.