Accel/Lignenfelter TPI system - Third Generation F-Body Message Boards

firstroc · 07-31-2009, 09:01 PM

Hi I am gettin ready to take the IROC off the road for winter and do a good paint job Original color just to get rid of the very few dings n faded spots. But the bis project for winter is the engine upgrade, talked to a good reputable builder in my area and we talked for a bit n he came up with the idea of turning the 350 into a 396 with about 520hp n 535 lb tq at fly wheel. This is not really my train of thot but I like it I like the idea of something "different" than the usual 383, he sugested changing the TPI system to the what he called an Accel/Lingenfelter system. He said he could work with my system but still the gains wouldn't be as great as switchin to this system. Does any1 know any info on this system and where I can get 1? I did a few searches on the web but didnt find 1 for sale. Thanx for all the help, if any1 needs more info just ask and I will give you what I know.

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burnout88 · 07-31-2009, 09:31 PM

It was called the Accel superram and they do not make it anymore. Everyone has been switching to the Holley/Wieland Steathram now. The old accel superram was a real mo-fo to install. The HSR makes better power and is a snap to install.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/WND-7540/

http://www.thunderracing.com/catalog...&pcid=177#S281

Your other choice is a TPIS miniram, but it is expensive

http://www.tpis.com/index.php?module...ake+Components

Bullydawg · 07-31-2009, 09:37 PM

If you take the time to put it on correctly it works GREAT! And it is the only smog legal intake on the market. A must for those in Cali.

And I am not sure the whole stealthram being better. The Superram produces Great TQ! Mine pulls to 6k easy.

But then again... If I didn't have to deal with smog, I WOULD go stealthram. It is easier to work with, gaskets are cheaper, more room, and ALOT cheaper.

firstroc · 07-31-2009, 09:44 PM

ok that bites. I supose the Accel was a good working part too? Do you know how much flow the stealth ram has?? Sounds like my engine builder is really concerned about flow.

burnout88 · 07-31-2009, 10:10 PM

There is bunch of stuff on the flow numbers over in the intake section on the board. But it will flow more then enough. It is a modified tunnel ram intake.

jsmith929 · 08-01-2009, 02:13 PM

Is the First intake a emision legal intake ? Might be something to consider.

Bullydawg · 08-01-2009, 02:15 PM

I think it is. But then again, I don't think he needs smog anyway.

firstroc · 08-01-2009, 10:49 PM

cars old enuff that its exempt from any emissions

Bullydawg · 08-01-2009, 10:56 PM

Ill sell you my superram set-up if you would like.

firstroc · 08-01-2009, 11:12 PM

how much? I'm startinr to consider the first fuel injection's system but need to get with engine builder first

Bullydawg · 08-01-2009, 11:25 PM

Do you just need the superram manifold, runners, and Plenum? Or do you also need the 52mm BBK Throttle body? Do you want the fuel pressure regulater and gauge also? What do you need?

You can reuse your Fuel rail and injectors...

874ME · 08-02-2009, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bullydawg

If you take the time to put it on correctly it works GREAT! And it is the only smog legal intake on the market. A must for those in Cali.

And I am not sure the whole stealthram being better. The Superram produces Great TQ! Mine pulls to 6k easy.

But then again... If I didn't have to deal with smog, I WOULD go stealthram. It is easier to work with, gaskets are cheaper, more room, and ALOT cheaper.

The SR was not the only smog legal intake. The SLP T-Ram was the first emission legal manifold on the market, then the ASR. Good luck finding a SLP T-Ram though.

firstroc · 08-02-2009, 11:10 AM

from wat engine dude told me was wen he did 1 b4 it came with everything including 58mm throttle body n that is wat i need for wat he wants to do to my engine

99monguse · 09-04-2009, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burnout88

It was called the Accel superram and they do not make it anymore. Everyone has been switching to the Holley/Wieland Steathram now. The old accel superram was a real mo-fo to install. The HSR makes better power and is a snap to install.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/WND-7540/

http://www.thunderracing.com/catalog...&pcid=177#S281

Your other choice is a TPIS miniram, but it is expensive

http://www.tpis.com/index.php?module...ake+Components

My buddy has the Stealth Ram and he says it runs like **** when cold because it doesn't have the 9th injector. He claimes the car runs absolutely terrible until it gets up to temp; he says a lot of people are having the same problem. I told him to maybe get a SUPERRAM since i found one for him.He is debating on changing to a carb set-up...which I don't want him to do!

madmax · 09-04-2009, 09:12 AM

Or he could just run the 89 code and stop worrying about a cold start injector that it doesnt need.

dfarr67 · 09-27-2009, 09:46 PM

BullyDawg what do you want for the plenum and runners- I'm assuming my stock style TB and Edelbrock lower manifold will bolt up.

Bullydawg · 09-27-2009, 09:49 PM

Everything has a price.. Make an offer. I am not trying to sell it unless I get an offer I like.

dfarr67 · 09-28-2009, 09:24 AM

Well, looking into the FIRST intake as well. I do have the Edelbrock Hiflow lower manifold and runners with a ported plenum and stock TB flowing 300cfm.
Wondering if this is worth changing on a truck application. Are the SR's really that hard to assemble?
4 bolt roller block, RHS vortec heads, warmed up cam, Dynamic EFI ecm.

Bullydawg · 09-28-2009, 11:28 AM

They aren't hard to assemble at all. Just take time. I have it all down. It doesn't take me too long at all.

1MeanZ · 09-28-2009, 08:32 PM

I have a superram and it's not that bad. CHeck the superram threads for install hints. Nothing beats this intake for torque and mid range power.

dfarr67 · 10-01-2009, 11:17 AM

Well one thing I like is that all my EGR plumbing doesn't change. I'm interested in the runners and plenum- assuming that the Edelbrock/Vortec lower manifold is compatible, don't really need anything else. If you have something I can work with- email me the pricing you are thinking about- or another contact willing to sell. davefarr1967@gmail.com

Thanks

dfarr67 · 10-01-2009, 11:37 AM

Well..I decided to pass on the FIRST deal, if anybody is looking for a FIRST intake for Vortec applications see this fella- he's very good to deal with. davenutting@gmail.com