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Old 04-22-2006, 07:52 PM   #1
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Th400 parts list.

Here is a list of parts and prices for what I used for my TH400 swap. I tried to find a complete list a while ago but couldn't, so this is for all the people that do a search in the future.

The car that I put this trans in is a weekend bracket car so I was after consistency more than anything. There are different ways to do some of the things, but this is how I did it.

Trans; the important part. Luckily I have a friend of a friend that builds racing transmissions so he built mine for me. It's got the big sprag, hardened drum, Alto Red's, TransGo kit, hardened shafts, deep pan, adjustable modulator, he worked the gears a little bit and did a lot of other stuff that's over my head. Guaranteed it for 900 HP so I think it'll do OK behind 430. He sells this trans for $1275.

Convertor; I went with a Hughes since I've always had good luck with them. I called them up and gave them the specs on my motor and faxed over my dyno sheets and car info. They spec'd out a 10" 3500 stall converter and it ran me $680 but I'm a dealer so that was my cost. I'm not sure what retail was. Their off-the-shelf converters hold up well too. I've used them in several cars with good results. They retail for $435.

Flexplate; You can get away with the stock piece but I grabbed a TCI SFI approved piece since my stocker was old. It's up to you, a new one will run you about $80 but spinning to over 6000 rpm's I feel safer with a high quality flexplate. Also swing for the ARP bolts.

Shifter; I rigged up my stocker to work for now since my B&M wasn't here in time. You can use your stocker but your indicator will be off. No biggie. When it stops raining I will be making mounts and modding the shifter plate to fit the B&M Magnum Pro Stick. Figure $175-200 for a decent shifter.

Trans crossmember/torque arm; You can either get the B&M or Hurst kit to adapt the crossmember and torque arm or you can go with the Spohn torque arm. Chances are if you need the th400 then you'll benefit from the adjustability of the Spohn piece. I wasn't about to try to tune the suspension with a stock torque arm so I went with the Spohn piece. It moves the instant center farther back, it gets the torque arm off the trans tail housing and onto the frame and it lets you adjust the pinion angle. Not to mention it's stiffer. For a street that you don't plan on racing a lot, the Hurst kit will work well. Hurst kit is $135, Spohn is $395.


Driveshaft; Most say this is the hardest part of the whole swap but it isn't that bad. The stocker is too short and finding a usable core at a junkyard that you could shorted is a pain. Not to mention it would cost you as much as a new one by the time you get it, new joints and shorten it. Once you get the transmission in and the torque arm installed you need to measure the length for your new driveshaft. Measure from the face of the end of the tailshaft to the center of the rear u-joint. Call up your local driveshaft shop and tell them what you're doing. They will know which joints to use. I called up and told them that I needed a DS with a front yoke for a TH400 and a rear joint to fit the stock 10 bolt and gave them the measurement. Had them make it out of 3' .083" wall thickness DOM seamless tubing. 3 hours after I called them the called me back and told me to pick it up. Total was $260.

Trans cooler; you'll need to add an additional trans cooler, especially with a high stall converter. I used the 2nd biggest Perma Cool trans cooler I could find with -6 an fititngs. That ran about $60, 20 ft. of -6 braided hose, $80 and another $90 worth of fittings. Expensive but well worth it. Cleaner install, more durable and reliable than rubber lines.

Dipstick; I'm sure that you can find a stock GM dipstick/tube that will work but I just got the Lokar braided one. Easier to install and it looks better. $50

Trans Mount; Pick up a good poly mount. Around $25. Energy suspension better than Prothane IMO.

Bolts; Hit up ARP for some good flexplate and torque converter bolts. Just a little extra security. Be sure to use a little blue loctite on them all.

Kickdown switch; I didn't use one, but all you need it a momentary switch up on the gas pedal under the dash to supply 12v. to the kickdown switch on the side of the trans. Search the bone yards for any car or truck and snatch the switch off the pedals and adapt it to your car.

Temp Gauge; Any car with a high stall converter should have a trans temp gauge to keep an eye on the temps, ESPECIALLY bracket cars. Autometer electric gauges work great and can be had for less than $60. Be sure to mount the sender in the pan before you fill the trans with fluid.

Odds 'n Ends; Don't forget all the little stuff! Fluids, nuts, bolts etc.. A drain plug is a good idea and makes fluid changes a lot easier.


This is how I did everything, not to be taken as gospel. Just trying to put most of the info in one place for those doing their own research.
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Old 04-22-2006, 07:57 PM   #2
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Well done. I made it a sticky for all to see.
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Old 05-13-2006, 09:17 PM   #3
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Been driving it a couple weeks now and went to the track last weekend. All is good. Here is an updated list of all the prices that I incurred during the project.

Trans $850
Converter $435
Flexplate $90
Torque arm $395
Driveshaft $260
Shifter $170
Trans mount $18
Temp gauge $40
Dipstick $40
Trans cooler (all -6an lines, you can do it cheaper) $180
ARP flexplate bolts $16
Fluids ( I'm a Royal Purple dealer so I had to use the good stuff ) $65

Total puts you around $1700, give or take a few. You can do the trans cooler for around $50 with rubber lines. You can use the stock 700R4 flexplate and bolts. You can make the stock torque arm and shifter work. I decided to go the more expensive route since it's raced every weekend and need the durabilty and I didn't want to have to try and rely on a 700R4.
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Old 09-25-2006, 11:01 PM   #4
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Im thinking about doing the same swap. Im kinda worried about the driveshaft problems. Do you remember the lengh of the DS?

Also what is your crusing speed at 65, I know thats going to depened on the rear axle ratio.
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Old 09-26-2006, 10:02 AM   #5
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Driveshasft is no problem at all. It's going to be slightly different for each car so you'll need to measure it for yourself with your parts.I don't remember the length but it's not hard to measure.

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Old 10-10-2006, 07:46 PM   #6
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wrong post, sry
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Old 11-01-2006, 11:59 AM   #7
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is there a certain length tailshaft 400 to use for this? not sure if the 400 is like the 350 for sure but I think so.
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Old 11-02-2006, 09:59 AM   #8
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I used the short tail version. There is a long tail version that others have used successfully but I'm not sure what is entailed besides different driveshaft length.
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Old 12-03-2006, 10:22 AM   #9
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There is a th-375 that has the th-400 case with th-350 size output spline and diameter. The length of the th-375 is also right about the same of th-350 with a 9in tailshaft. I think most of the internals are th400 but its not rated as high as the th400. I would think it has less clutches and steels but I haven't taken one apart and haven't seen anything about them regarding that.

I have a th375 and a th400 short tail (4in) if anyone would like pictures.
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Old 12-29-2006, 12:45 AM   #10
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Hey man I read your post and was about to the something similar. I am wanting to switch from the t5 that is in my car to a th400. I have a few questions...

Pedals?
Will my tranny crossmember that I have now do or not?
I guess that is really it. for now.

Any help would be appreciated.

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th-400 4" and 9" tailshafts, whats the difference

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Old 10-23-2007, 10:34 PM   #12
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Re: Th400 parts list.

If I use the Hurst or B&M fitting kit, what sort of trans mount am I looking for? Just a poly version of the 700R4 mount? Or do I need to find one for a T400?
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Re: Th400 parts list.

they are all the same just get a gm tranny mount
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Old 11-20-2007, 09:17 PM   #14
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Re: Th400 parts list.

Thanks mate.

I scanned this for a question in another thread, but I thought I'll throw it up here for the more 'visual' member amoung us.

Its the pics that come with the Hurst T400 fitting kit.

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Re: Th400 parts list.

OK, my swap is slowly coming together... New question tho...

Do i need a one-way valve or something to use the vacuum modulator on my boosted motor? Or once it hits atmospheric is it maxed, and the boost doesnt make any difference?
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Re: Th400 parts list.

I think just use a manifold vac port from the motor. not sure though so I would look for a more positive answer. Also with the Hurst kit does the torque arm still bolt up the same? would it be ok for street use for a little while? The 400 kit comes with a crossmember I think I have never used one.

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Old 02-28-2008, 08:20 PM   #17
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Re: Th400 parts list.

How did the tranny fit in the tunnel, any issues with headers?
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Re: Th400 parts list.

My car is a right-hand-drive turbo car, so theres NO CHANCE i have the same header setup as you :P

But as far as I can tell, the 400s are a smaller box to the 700 so fitting around bits and peices should be sweet.

Heres a couple of pics I took before i took it off the hoist.


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Re: Th400 parts list.

Is the 350 the exact same as the 400 as far as dimenstions and bolt patterns? Will I need to do anything as far as the trailing arm or whatever is is that connects the rear end to the trans? Can I get a link to the b&m or hurst kits?

If Im looking to get a 9" th350, what parts will I all need to get? Will any modifying at all be necessary or will it be simply bolt up? Im looking to maybe convert since my 700r4 is acting screwy and shifting like crap
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Re: Th400 parts list.

you mean torque arm not trailing arms.
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