westman995

Ok im working on this car, 82 trans am. Put a 5 speed out of an 84 Camaro into it. Trans am had mechanical clutch linkage, and i put the hyrdo set up in it.

I cant get it working. I hooked it all up and put fluid in it. Im guessing i somehow need to bleed it, or its no good. But i think i need to bleed it.

I read that some have a screw to bleed it, but i cant see any on mine? As far as i know the parts car was an 84, camaro 5 speed which i took the tranny and clutch set up from. Should there be a screw on this thing? If so, where at?

And any other tips to bleed it?

westman995

Anyone? I cant figure this thing out.

nitemare70

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I have seen factory units that are one piece from the pedal to the slave rod. These have no screws for bleeding as they are pre-bled. I used one on a 4th gen. They also do not leave a lot of room for adjusting if the flywheel is turned.

westman995

Man that sucks, i think i have one piece one, cuz it doesnt even look like the line comes off the cylinders or whatever either. Is there any way to get this thing bled? Or am i pretty much screwed as far as using this set up? Assuming its the one piece one and has no bleed screw.

nitemare70

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I have not seen it done successfully with out a good machine shop handy. Mainly it was because of the high pressure lines. Sorry to be bad news messenger.

westman995

Got any idea how they do it? I dont know where i could bring it. I cant really afford to buy a new set up.. Ive only looked on ebay and they are like 200 bucks new..

89305formula

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there should be a bleeder on top of the slave cylinder, i know my 89 had one. and the pre bled 4th gen system have a bleeder in the same spot

alloy

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It's easy to do. Check my post on this thread. It's the last post on page 5.

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tran...-thread-5.html

89-bird

I always pump the pedal back and forth between full up and full down until all air is moved out of the lines . Just pump slowly and don't go all the way to the floor and don't come all the way back up and that should get you going .

westman995

Thanks for the responses everyone.

Alloy, i am going to try what you said. I have the slave cylinder bolted to the trans right now, so ill try your way, sounds very logical. Mine were totally dry also when i removed the system from the parts car. I hope the system works atleast.

westman995

Ok bad news i think. I did get the thing working... For a minute.. Then it started leaking from the slave cylinder ( the bottom part that bolts to the trans) So i guess im screwed and need some new parts. Getting pretty sick of this car as its not worth putting a bunch of new parts on..

It seems as if its leaking out of the cylinder part of it.. Not the hose or anything..

89-bird

You may be able to get a rebuild kit for it but I would replace it for an aftermarket one made of metal and that has a bleeder . If your assembly looks to be one piece from master to slave they put them together at each end of the line with a clip or rollpin so you can take them apart .

westman995

Im considering going to the mechanical linkage.. What do you guys think? This car was originally mechanical..

Wait i just remembered, i think the reason i didnt go with mechanical was something to do with the bell housing.. I dont think you can just bolt up the mechanical one to the same one.. or can you?

89-bird

No the mechanical used a differrent bellhousing if I remember correctly .

Codename 47

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A slave cylinder will run you 50 bucks at a parts store. Before you install it, fill it up with fluid.

Sonix

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Stick with the hydraulic, you'll hate the mechanical setup
I went with an aftermarket hydraulic setup in my 1982, and I love it. Mine has a remote bleed setup, so it's a bit easier. There must be a way to bleed the slave...

westman995

Im pretty sure the mechanical does use another bell housing. But can anyone confirm that for sure? Sonix, since you swapped from mechanical to hydro, did you need a new bell housing?

I did have it bled, it worked. But then it started leaking and it lost pressure and stopped working right away.

By the way, the problem the first time was the thing was clogged up. I took the hose off from the little reservoir to the master cylinder, and put a hose on and blew air through it.. It didnt come through the other end at first.. but then it started to and some crap leaked out.. So im pretty sure it was clogged up. But either way it doesnt matter now the stupid thing is junk apparrently.

Sonix

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Mechanical and *factory* hydraulic use different bellhousings.

I used a hydraulic throw out bearing. Aftermarket setup. So I used my factory bellhousing.

Codename 47

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If you buy a new slave you shouldn't have any problems. There will be a bleeding screw on it if you need.

If it's used, you might as well scrap it (from the sounds of it, if there was **** in it that's a good sign to junk it). The seals will go bad on them and it's a cheap replaceable part.

Air_Adam

I replaced my mechanical setup with the factory hydraulic system and could not be happier. This was the BEST drivebility upgrade I've done to this car since I got it to start again!

I went to an aftermarket bellhousing to use a hydraulic setup with my 4-spd, but other than the welded-on bracket for the slave, it didn't seem significantly different from the original cast aluminum 4-spd bellhousing. The only difference I could see was the welded on bracket - and the pushrod for the mechanical linkage should pass right through that. As long as it doesn't hit it along its stroke, it should work fine..?

westman995

Ok i think ill try and go with the hydro set up. See what i can find to replace/fix it or whatever.. needs to be on the cheap tho..

89-bird

I would go with the parts store replacement piece and it should be metal instead of plastic and have a regular bleeder screw on it .

westman995

Would a plastic one be fine? I found one i might buy. But want to make sure the saving a few bucks is worth it instead of going with the metal ones. This one might actually be metal too but i have to confirm, i dont think it is but it might be.

And can i for sure just replace the slave cylinder set up on this hyrdo system? Cuz i dont want to get the slave cylinder and then i cant even use it with my stuff. I didnt look it over close but it didnt seem as if you could remove the lines from them.

89-bird

The line should be held on with a rollpin and you just knock the pin out and replace the slave and reinstall .

westman995

Thanks for the quick response. Ill check it out, sounds easy enough so i hope its as said. I was thinking about the line being bad, but seeing as how it didnt leak through the line it should be good so i shouldnt have to worry about that i guess.

89-bird

Just remember to fill the slave with fluid before you hook it up .

westman995

Will do.

89-bird

Let us know how that goes .

westman995

I definitely will. Ill post some pics too.

I dont have to take the whole system out of the car again, do i? I can just replace the cylinder while the master is still bolted up i hope?

89-bird

You just remove the slave and drive out the rollpin and reassemble in reverse of removing .

89-bird

Did you get it yet ?

westman995

I didnt get the one i was looking at on ebay, but i bought a brand new one at napa.. Needless to say, i installed it and found out the damn master cylinder was junked and leaked, sucked more air in everytime. So, i ended up finding the one part i needed for the mechanical linkage, it was in the glove box, and i installed that and it works fine... So im sticking with taht for now.. We had to add to on to the rod pushing the clutch in due to the original 4 speed was short, but it all works fine..