FED 387

Anybody know for sure if a 93-02 Camaro/Firebird drive shaft will fit in a 82-92 Camaro/firebird--looking to swap an aluminum shaft in place of the steel one---fed387

antoine

it will work i have one on my car now

DJP87Z28

All Factory stock 3rd & 4th Gen Camaro/Firebird Dr Shafts (aluminum & steel for both Auto/Manual) are the same length. Does that amswer your question?? If not , do a search.

FED 387

Thanx that is EXACTLY what I wanted to know---fed387

RBob

iTrader: (1)

There are different length drive shafts in the 3rd gens. And the 4th gen driveshafts can be a one piece or a two piece unit.

Then dependent upon the year of the 3rd gen the rear U-joint will vary.

RBob.

DJP87Z28

Different lenghts on STOCK V8 dr shafts, Now I heard everything.

Why go off on a tangent, he did NOT mention anything about the 2-pc V-6 dr shafts. Also, I never heard any onyone have a problem with the u-joints on the 10 or 9-bolts. I sure as hell did not, when I used 1LE shaft on my 9-bolt

JamesC

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At one time I sold 60+ JG1's. The pre-88 cars, at least some of them, which includes my 85, required another U to properly fit. I advised CarQuest 3-3130 as the replacement.

82-83 cars with a TH350 short tail did have a different length.

JamesC

daytonayellaz

iTrader: (1)

OK...I have a question to ad to this thread. I have a 91 Z28 5-speed, 10 bolt. Which 4 gen shaft do I need....The LS1 shaft or the V6 shaft. Thanks in advance!

DJP87Z28

If it is not a cloned Z28, you have a V8 and can use the 3rd/4th gen ILE 2 3/4dia or the 4th gen LS1 3" dia Aluminum Dr Shafts. Forget about the 2 pc shafts used on V6 cars.

daytonayellaz

iTrader: (1)

OK..Thats exactly what I was looking for. The local salvage yard has the 2-piece V6 shaft and wanted to make sure befor I bought it.

On the LS1 shafts....Does it matter if its auto or 6-speed?

I do not have a cloned Z28, its the real deal.

articwhiteZ

iTrader: (56)

LET ME ASK THIS.

I have a 1992 Z28 5.7 (700R4)

Will a 1LE alum Drive shaft Bolt right in.. same yokes & U-joints.
(My carri 9" did..lol want to Keeep things easy)
and a guy has one for sale $150

JamesC

iTrader: (5)

Yes.

Auto and manual shafts are interchangeable.

JamesC

articwhiteZ

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fantastic..ill go and Buy it...(trying to keep this nexed fix under $6000)

and thank you

Kile FTP

Hey , I have a 97 v6 Camaro I was wondering if I could swap out the two piece drive shaft with a one piece from a v8 Camaro ?

JamesC

iTrader: (5)

Welcome to TGO.

Yes.

JamesC

Christobal

What is this standard or typical length? Mainly interested in shafts used behind a 700r4 or the T-5 or a 4th gen with a T56. If someone has the info or one happens to be laying around, or the car is already on a lift or you're going to be under there anyways. I assume the best way to measure would be between u-joint 'ear' centerlines.

Thanks

Chris

articwhiteZ

iTrader: (56)

you have a 2 piece. to cut down on the Vibration that V6 makes.
thats why it' in there..

JamesC

iTrader: (5)

The thirdgen shaft is 41 1/2 from center of the U to center of the U, for both the auto and manual. Since the fourthgen shaft is interchangeable with the third, length wouldn't be an issue.

JamesC

Christobal

That number rings a bell. Thanks. About 10-12 years ago I swapped a T56 from a 95 Camaro into my 88 using the standard T56 bell and it fit the same. or very close to it, as with the 700....so I concur.

jgs89irocz

i have a question i have an 89 iroc with a th350 and im told a 10 bolt out of a 92 what drive shaft do i need

JamesC

iTrader: (5)

Welcome to TGO. The TH350 had two tail shafts, a short and a long. IIRC, the long will accept the shaft I mention above. If short, you need the longer driveshaft from an 82-83 third gen which was equipped with the 200c 3 speed tranny.

JamesC

stevek

Hope this helps. I have a 350 with a th-350 with the short tail shaft and my 41 1/4" driveshaft wouldn't work, so a guy that does this for a living, made one for me 45" long, which fits perfectly. I was told to measure with 3/4"-1" of the yoke extended from the seal in the housing.

Nght_Driftr

i have that same prob I removed my v6 with the 4 speed and installed the 350 with th350 short shaft and my driveline is too short at least 2 inches so your saying if i have mine lengthened to 45 inches it will fit?

stevek

I am saying mine fits perfectly.To be sure for your car,insert the yoke to within 3/4" fully inserted and measure from the center of the yoke u-joint to the center of the rear u-joint and that his how long of a driveshaft you need.

AlkyIROC

The proper measurement is:

Install slip yoke into transmission all the way. Pull back out 1". Measure from center of slip yoke u-joint to center of diff u-joint. That's your driveshaft measurement.

C. Hartwell

i am new to this sort of thing and maybe you already answered this but i have an '88 Camaro Base model w/ 2.8L v6 . i am attempting to convert to a borg warner WC T5 and would like to know if it can be done without having to change out a ton of stuff... if there is an easier solution any help would be appreciated

minigunz

I just put a w/c t5 (from 95 camaro 3.4l) in my car (3.1l) and used my old 4l60 shaft, it fit- but i had to pry and wedge it in

Formula 305

Just wanted to throw this in, when measuring for driveshafts, make sure the rear suspension is at ride height, and not full droop.

doug246

Yes it will work, I just put a single piece Dr shaft in my camaro. I had this same problem just day before yesterday. And instead of putting that 2 peace back in, I put a single Dr shaft from a firebird. Don't second guess your self, just go for it.

doug246

Yes it will work. Mine did not have no vibration at all. My best opinion is to get rid of that 2 piece and go with the single shaft.

luvofjah

iTrader: (2)

Drive shaft help.... saw a lot of knowlegeable people...

When you say,
"thirdgen shaft is 41 1/2 from center of the U to center of the U"

Please define "center of U"
I took that to mean the hole where the cap / u joint end is on the drive shaft....

JamesC

iTrader: (5)

Correct.

JamesC

luvofjah

iTrader: (2)

Here is a pic of the 3rd / 4th gen DS...
Notice the round donut just past yoke... and the wear marks...
This is the 40.75 shaft on ebay... ???

TTOP350

iTrader: (8)

That is a late 4th gen driveshaft.
The "3rdgen" 1st design was made until at least 1996. (I have a 3rdgen one date coded 1996)

luvofjah

iTrader: (2)

So early 4th gen are 41.5 and later are 40.75?

I know early ones are two and three quarter inches, and later ones are 3 inches. I wonder if I can find one that's three inches, and 41.5 inches long.

TTOP350

iTrader: (8)

No. AFAIK, 3rd and 4th are the same length. I'm just identifying which you have.

luvofjah

iTrader: (2)

There are threads here with people stating 41.5 is correct length, mine and others I've seen on ebay are 40.75.... ???

JamesC

iTrader: (5)

The fourth-gen alum LS1 shafts, though larger in diameter, are apparently thin-walled and internally damped with cardboard. My understanding is that they're weaker than third-gen shafts.

JamesC

TTOP350

iTrader: (8)

Its a crime i'm sure you will get to the bottom of.
I can tell you I've had both side by side and they were the same overall length.

luvofjah

iTrader: (2)

Either buy one that is 41.5, or get a custom for $400...

No one else has measured a 40.75 one?

luvofjah

iTrader: (2)

For the record...
The 3rd gen aluminum shaft IS 41.5
the 4th gen aluminum shaft IS 40.75

Over all, both are same length with slip yoke...
The 4th gen has a .75 inch balance on the yoke that the 3rd gen one does not...

When I replaced the yoke with balancer on my 4th gen shaft with just a yoke... it was .75 inches shorter...

Formula 305

If you measure from the center of one U-Joint, to the center of the other U-Joint ("A" in the image below) yoke length would be irrelevant.

luvofjah

iTrader: (2)

Top is 4th gen with (shorter DS) with balancer on yoke...
Bottom is 3rd gen (longer DS) with no balancer on yoke...
Both WITH Yoke are same length...

But if you switch yokes... then one gets longer, the other shorter...

I have a 4th gen (shorter DS) and had to switch to a 28 spline yoke for my Astro A5 Trans (shorter) yoke... so my DS & yoke length shrank by .75 (the difference in shafts and the width of the balancer on the 4th gen one...

InfinityShade

Sorry to bring this thread yo once again but i have a 84 with a 2.5l and a saginaw 4 speed. Im going to swap the saginaw out for a v6 t5 and im unsure of my current driveshaft length. Will i need a new driveshaft yokes etc? If I do or if i were to just upgrade would the fourthgen v6 2 peace be my bedt option for the vibrative 2.5l?