Go Back   Third Generation F-Body Message Boards > Tech Boards > Transmissions and Drivetrain
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?

Transmissions and Drivetrain Need help with your trans? Problems with your axle?

Welcome to ThirdGen.org!
Welcome to ThirdGen.org.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, join the ThirdGen.org community today!


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 09-18-2009, 06:53 PM   #1
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Bastrop, Tx
Posts: 297
Car: 87 Iroc-Z
Engine: 305 tpi
Transmission: 700-r4
Axle/Gears: 3.42

Classifieds Rating: (0)
stripped splines HELP

i've got a 10 bolt out of an 02 trans am and when ever i do a burnout i hear a nasty popping sound that rattles the whole car. i jacked up the rear and noticed i can turn the passenger side tire without anything happening it spins free for the most part but every now and then you feel a little drag. I pulled the diff cover and everything looks good not even any shavings on the magnet. got any ideas.
ATX-Iroc is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2009, 10:56 PM   #2
Supreme Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Cary, North Carolina
Posts: 9,181
Car: 1992 RS
Engine: Carbed 350
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42 posi

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Send a message via AIM to camaronewbie
Re: stripped splines HELP

With the Zexel Torsen differential, unless there is some resistance, one wheel can spin freely - there has to be torque applied to both wheels, with one having less resistance than the other, in order for the differential to apply power to the "free wheel". Thus, having a wheel jacked in the air will not allow the differential to apply power, and it will free-spin. In other words, you can't apply enough force to a spinning wheel by hand in order for the differential to apply power to that side, if that makes sense.

I'm not totally understanding it either, but it kinda makes sense (intuitively anyhow) by reading about it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torsen#How_they_work

Doesn't solve the issue, but explains why you can't feel the resistance you are expecting with a wheel jacked up (especially the pass wheel).

I'd maybe look into U-Joints, maybe the pinion nut/seal/crush sleeve, or tranny and/or motor mounts. But again, I'm certainly no expert. Good Luck!
__________________
1992 25th Anniversary RS T-Top
350 Carb 10:1 Dometops Mild Cam
Hedmann Headers Hi-Flo Cat/Aerochamber Muffler
700R4 B&M Shift Kit LS1 Disc Rear w/3.42 Posi
Poly Bushings Eibach Prokit Bilstein Shocks/Struts
HOK Candy Teal on Silver Flake IROC Hood
camaronewbie is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2009, 07:23 AM   #3
Supreme Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 4,482
Car: 1987 Black IROC-Z (original owner)
Engine: 350 Crate with TPI
Transmission: 700R4 with 2400 SLP Stall

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: stripped splines HELP

Solution... Stop doing Burnout.
DJP87Z28 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2009, 11:27 AM   #4
Senior Member
 
big gear head's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Central City, KY.
Posts: 1,624

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: stripped splines HELP

Which differential do you have? If you have the Torsen differential then I'm not going to be much help. I don't have any real experience with them. I would suspect that there is something wrong in the differential that is causing this problem. I doubt that it would be stripped splines because the splines are stronger than the shaft. I also doubt that it's a ring & pinion problem. The first place I would be looking is the differential.
big gear head is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2009, 10:48 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Bastrop, Tx
Posts: 297
Car: 87 Iroc-Z
Engine: 305 tpi
Transmission: 700-r4
Axle/Gears: 3.42

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: stripped splines HELP

I have the Torsen differential. I checked my u-joints they have no play and they're relatively new( 1 month) my trans mount is poly and all the bolts are good and snug. what im interested in is how do I check the pinion nut and crush sleeve. can i do it with the rear in the car.

and stop doing burnouts, what good is TPI for
ATX-Iroc is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2009, 09:34 AM   #6
Senior Member
 
big gear head's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Central City, KY.
Posts: 1,624

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: stripped splines HELP

REmove the drive shaft and put a torque wrench on the pinionnut. The nut is 1 1/4 inches, so you will need a socket this size. Set the torque wrench to 150 and see if the nut is this tight. If it is then the nut isn't loose. If the nut turns at 150 foot pounds then you might have a spacer problem or the nut was just loose. Check the bearings by pushing up and down on the yoke. If the yoke moves in any direction other than rotation then the bearings may be bad.
big gear head is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2009, 10:59 AM   #7
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Bastrop, Tx
Posts: 297
Car: 87 Iroc-Z
Engine: 305 tpi
Transmission: 700-r4
Axle/Gears: 3.42

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: stripped splines HELP

Just wanted to give an update on what the solution of this was and it turned out that the 2 side welds on the spring perch were cracked and them rubbing during the wheel hop was the loud popping sound and they were also the cause of the wheel hop. glad i caught this before that last weld gave out
ATX-Iroc is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2009, 10:59 AM
ThirdGen
1992 Camaro




Paid Advertisement


Reply

Go Back   Third Generation F-Body Message Boards > Tech Boards > Transmissions and Drivetrain

Tags
84, axle, body, camaro, differencial, differential, differentials, drive, gen, lt1, nut, popping, shaft, size, spline, splines, stripped
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

 


1982 Camaro '82 || 1983 Camaro '83 || 1984 Camaro '84 || 1985 Camaro '85 || 1986 Camaro '86 || 1987 Camaro '87 || 1988 Camaro '88 || 1989 Camaro '89 || 1990 Camaro '90 || 1991 Camaro '91 || 1992 Camaro '92


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:08 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright © 1997 - 2012 ThirdGen.org. All rights reserved. No part of this website may be reproduced without the expressed, documented, and written consent of ThirdGen.org's Administrators.

Emails & Contact Details