My hydraulic line is broken, Is it true that you can't get a replacement without getting the master and slave cylinder with it? I certainly hope not, i just bought a new slave cylinder and i really dont need another one. I just need the line, If i have to go through Russell, is AN-3 line big enough? Also what length is ideal for best performance, or does anyone know what the length of the original stock line was? thanks

I'm keeping an eye on replies to your question, cwf. I also need the hydraulic line (1984 Camaro 305/T5). I can't seem to find a replacement line anywhere. I'll go with AN if need be, but a quick look at the Summit website didn't show me any AN adapters for the clutch master and slave cylinders. Certainly, such adapters exist, I must not be searching correctly.

Go to the McLeod forum http://www.mcleodind.com/forum/index.php and ask B illy, he will know the McLeod part number for a replacement AN line and adapters

Hey guys. I don't have the time to hunt it up right now, but just a few days ago a member posted an ad on the engine/drivetrain parts for sale board that he's fabricating that line out of stainless braided line. I think he was asking about $65 for them. That's a great price compared to what most places charge to adapt a better line on our hydraulics. It'd be well worth the money and be able to get rid of the crappy, sub-par plastic line. The 93-97 4th gen braided line will fit if you have an aluminum slave cylinder. That's what I did with mine, but with the plastic slave it won't fit. Go back a few days on the engine classifieds and you should be able to find that guy's ad.

Thanks, Pat, I found the ad.
Cwf, here's the location http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/en...p-plastic.html

Rob

Thanks for the tip, 572_rat. I called McLeod a few minutes ago and got the following part numbers for my hydraulic clutch application (84 Camaro):
Line, AN-4, McLeod part number 139100-30 (a 24 inch line is also available)
Roll pin adapters, AN-4, McLeod P/N 139026

I then called Summit Racing for a price check:
line 139100-30 $63.69
adapter 139026 $46.39 each

If ordered from Summit it looks like the better part of $200 will be used up once shipping and handling are added.

Rob

Here's what the McLeod roll pin adapter looks like from the Summit Racing site:

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MCL-139026/

Hey Rob. Yeah, now you can see why I said Apache's price for one of those lines isn't a bad deal at all. Other guys have fabbed up their own lines using McLeod and Summit, and I don't think I've seen anyone manage it for less than $100. The price for those stupid little adapters alone is ridiculous! A 24 inch line should be plenty long enough. The 4th gen line I adapted to my setup is probably around 2 1/2 to 3 ft. long and it doesn't get in the way of anything. If you search on the boards here a bit, not long ago in the trans/drivetrain board a guy posted the info/part # on how to get an aluminum 3rd gen slave cylinder from Auto Zone for pretty cheap. That's all you'd need to get to be able to use the 93-97 braided stainless line on a 3rd gen system, and you can easily grab that line at most junkyards off the plentiful 93-97 V6 f-bodies that are littering most yards right now. The V6 braided line is identical to the V8 one. If you can't find the part # for the aluminum slave, let me know. I've still got the package from the one I bought. I know Brakeware was the brand, but I'd have to do some major digging in the garage to figure out where I left that baggie with the part # on it!

Remember if you are going to use the 4th gen braided steel line, to do the drill out procedure, GM put a restrictor in the 4th gen lines, you want to make sure you drill it out

http://www.installuniversity.com/ins...r_cylinder.htm

Pat, thanks for the info; I'm intrigued by using a 4th gen hose; I'll search into the forum. Rat, I've saved the restriction removal article that your link references. Had you not mentioned the restriction I wouldn't have known about it.
I went to the local automotive machine shop with an '84 Camaro slave cylinder I got from NAPA ($50) and asked them how to adapt the cylinder to some form of hose. Their answer was to get a steel male AN-4/pipe thread type of adapter fitting and turn down the pipe thread end in a lathe, duplicating the fitting that GM has on the hose end. That sounds like a strong possibility.

Not to hijack cwf's thread here, but I'm in the process of installing an '84 Camaro T5 and bell housing into my '82 Olds Delta 88 (and the original tired Olds 307 is being replaced with a '92 TBI Chevy 350). The T5 and bell housing practically fell into my lap, so I decided to run with it. I thought that getting the Camaro hydraulic clutch parts would be an easy task owing to the popularity of the Camaro. Getting the master cylinder and the slave cylinder was easy, but I was sure surprised to find that an aftermarket clutch line wasn't out there. It was recommended on another automotive site that I try thirdgen.com for answers. I certainly wasn't steered wrong with that suggestion. I appreciate the help I've been given here.

There's a company selling the line from the slave to master cylinder on ebay for $52 plus shipping. I found them while looking for transmissions, if you search "camaro t5" this hose keeps showing up! Here's a link - http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TPI-T...Q5fAccessories

Wow, that's cool to know that somebody actually has the original line available now without having to buy the whole damn assembly. Considering Apache's price for a braided stainless line though, it's probably the best option. The plastic line seems to hold up for a fairly long time, but it's nice to have a stainless one and not have to worry about your line bursting at the most inconvenient time and place, especially if you're running headers and are exposing the plastic line to all that additional heat!