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A bit long, but I want to give a complete explanation. Have done searches but can't find anything helpful. About 1.5 years ago I bought a T56-011V tranny from Rockland Standard Gear and, projects being what they are, I'm just now getting down to figuring out the bellhousing for this critter. I called RSG twice and spoke to the tech guy, who seems very knowledgeable, and here is what he said, more or less: get a bellhousing for a T5 or Muncie/Saginaw, remove the front cover plate from the tranny, center the bellhousing bore to the bearing hole and drill holes in the front cover plate to match up to the ones in the bellhousing. So I ordered a Lakewood bellhousing for a Mun/Sag and it ain't even close. I have not removed the plate. Made sense over the phone, but then I held the bellhousing up to the plate while looking and of course there are no matching holes with the bellhousing, there is nowhere on that plate to drill where there is any reinforcement. I really am lost now, since in the past I've always dealt with factory type parts, not much aftermarket, and I really don't get what the tech guy was talking about. I do plan to call him back, pending what may be answered here.
Question: Any idea on what bellhousing will actually work and how to proceed??? Anyone else used one of these trannies who can enlighten me??? Pic of front of tranny below.
It sounds like the tech is instructing you to drill this adaptor plate. (Some early ones only had the T5 rotated holes and needed drilled for the straight-up Municie/Saganaw pattern) The one shown has both sets..
Mike, thanks for your response. No, I did not get that plate with my tranny. When I ordered it they made no mention of that plate. I will call and ask them about it tomorrow. Now you can understand why I'm confused; had I received that plate you showed it would have been muuuuuch clearer. Thanks again.
Thanks for the info Mike. That looks like a nice adaptor plate you showed; if RSG won't cooperate I'll probably order that one. FWIW, I just realized who you are and that your ECM swap pages helped me make the '165 to '730 swap several years ago. Thanks.....
BTW, your profile lists "T56 Viper". Did RSG convince you to install a viper outputshaft upgrade on the Aftermarket T56?
Well, I found that tranny on their website at the time, I called them and asked them about it and they told me how it came. I don't recall being offered that option, or any other options. I'm sure it came that way because they did say I'd need a certain yoke for it, which I did get from them. Did I get screwed? If so, oh well, it's too late now. Onward..................
It's not a show-stopper, just a head scratcher.. The Aftermarket gearset is the same as the '93 M29 (2.97 1st gear) that's rated at 400hp. The '94-'02 MM6 ratios (2.66 1st gear) are rated at 450hp. So putting a 800hp viper mainshaft on the aftermarket trans just begs the question.
BTW, here's another swap article using the aftermarket T56 and a McLeod SFI bellhousing.
Looks like an LS1 front cover. There is a guy with a built LS trans and what look like the Mcleod bellhousing, clutch, hydraulics and everything you would need to bolt your trans to an SBC gen 1 selling his swap in the classifieds. Might be able to work a deal out with him for the bell and other stuff. Just a thought.
Looks like an LS1 front cover. There is a guy with a built LS trans and what look like the Mcleod bellhousing, clutch, hydraulics and everything you would need to bolt your trans to an SBC gen 1 selling his swap in the classifieds. Might be able to work a deal out with him for the bell and other stuff. Just a thought.
"Looks like", but is not.. The slave bolt clocking is wrong and there's no notches for the hyd lines.. This mid-plate was special to the Aftermarket T56 and not to be confused with the LS1-T56.
I don't see where the OP was asking where to buy a bell/clutch/hyd ???
"Looks like", but is not.. The slave bolt clocking is wrong and there's no notches for the hyd lines.. This mid-plate was special to the Aftermarket T56 and not to be confused with the LS1-T56.
I don't see where the OP was asking where to buy a bell/clutch/hyd ???
Calm down the OP posted up a problem on a peer reviewed site. I have some level of knowledge, but I'm not an expert so I posted my tought on what might be a solution. Another peer (you) seems to know that I'm mistaken as to what the front cover is and corrected saying that my idea for a solution won't work. Thanks for correcting me but taht attitude is really unneccessary.
Okay here it is. After I spoke with RSG today I realized the whole problem is that, apparently, I'm a dumbass. I remembered getting 2 boxes when I ordered it; one with the tranny and one with the yoke. However, and here is where the dumbass part comes in: the plate & bolts were shipped in the box with the yoke. Since I only opened the tranny box I missed the whole thing. I am gonna have to drill the plate to fit the bellhousing since it only has bolt holes for the canted T5 and my bellhousing is for a straight up Muncie/Saginaw. Live and learn and I'm sorry for bothering ya'll with my ineptitude, but these aftermarket parts can really be confusing if you're not used to dealing with them. Let the flogging commence. "Thank you sir, may I have another?"
BTW, I found another blurb about your build, looks like RSG did you right on the extra parts so it should hold up well for you.. The input-shaft/Countershaft interface is still a weak link on that 2.97 1st gear ratio set, but you should be good for 500hp with the upgrades they did.
"We have a unit that will work for you with the least amount of engineering on your part. The unit is a 1386-000-011V. It starts life as a brand new unit so there is NO core charge as it is sold outright. We modify the unit to make it race ready (stronger and more durable). We install a 30 spline Viper output shaft to handle your torque load and vehicle weight. We install a steel 3-4 shift fork, carbon fiber synchro rings, solid billet shift keys, blue print and match fit all components, and performance shim. We will provide a yoke for your drive shaft"
Well here's the thing. I knew the yoke came in a separate box but I figured what's to see, right? It's a yoke. Big deal. So I never opened the second box. What did I learn from this? Next time, open all the %$#^&ing boxes! Duuuhhhhh...........
Thanks again Mike for your input.
I remembered getting 2 boxes when I ordered it; one with the tranny and one with the yoke. However, and here is where the dumbass part comes in: the plate & bolts were shipped in the box with the yoke. Since I only opened the tranny box I missed the whole thing. I am gonna have to drill the plate to fit the bellhousing since it only has bolt holes for the canted T5 and my bellhousing is for a straight up Muncie/Saginaw. Live and learn and I'm sorry for bothering ya'll with my ineptitude, but these aftermarket parts can really be confusing if you're not used to dealing with them. Let the flogging commence. "Thank you sir, may I have another?" 
