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Old 11-27-2011, 12:30 PM
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T5 to T56 questions

I've read alot of stuff about the swap and have actually done one on a friends car but someone had all ready fabbed everything up and rigged up a internal slave set up. My question is since I've all ready bought all new hydrualics for my T5 (it gave it up), a new clutch set, had my flywheel resurfaced, new clutch fork, and throwout bearing and about 1k later I lost 3rd and 4th they're just dead like neutral i can go from 3rd to 4th parked with the clutch out. Will all the new parts I've all ready bought for the T5 work with the M6? Also are the bellhousings interchangeable?
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I've read alot of stuff about the swap and have actually done one on a friends car but someone had all ready fabbed everything up and rigged up a internal slave set up. My question is since I've all ready bought all new hydrualics for my T5 (it gave it up), a new clutch set, had my flywheel resurfaced, new clutch fork, and throwout bearing and about 1k later I lost 3rd and 4th they're just dead like neutral i can go from 3rd to 4th parked with the clutch out. Will all the new parts I've all ready bought for the T5 work with the M6? Also are the bellhousings interchangeable?
Nothing is interchangable... the starter is interchangable... maybe the master cyl if you want to go through the trouble of cutting up a T56 hydraulic assembly to run one and figure out how to bleed it, but Im not sure that's really a good idea.

Maybe if you use an LS1 T56 and buy all he conversion parts and adapter plates you can run some of your old stuff... not sure.

But with an LT1 T56 you're not gonna be able to reuse ANYHING, and the LT1 T56 is the cheaper, simpler way to do it.
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Re: T5 to T56 questions

Why does everyone say you can't bleed a 3rd gen slave? There's an allen screw behind where the line goes and a weep hole that you can use.
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Why does everyone say you can't bleed a 3rd gen slave? There's an allen screw behind where the line goes and a weep hole that you can use.
I dont know anything about third gen slaves. LT1 T56 slaves and third gen T5 slaves are not interchangable, however, and are completely different.
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Re: T5 to T56 questions

What is the usual cost of doing the swap? Do you think it would be worth the effort of trying to have my T5 fixed? I'm thinking I broke a fork or something and it made a slight whining noise at low speeds before. I also don't know if I'm going to be making to much power for it. Its a 305, performer intake, 650 edelbrock carb, full 3 inch exhaust, XE268 cam. The car ran extremely strong for what it is I thought.
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Re: T5 to T56 questions

I'm going to be using my third gen slave for my swap. The bolt locations are the same, although it's clocked a little differently. I removed the plastic line, cut out the stock metal barbed fittings, and am going to use some press on bendable air line purchased from a local hydraulic hose supplier. They told me it's good to 300psi and is oil resistant and would work good.

The cost of the swap is more than what you'll originally think it is. The clutch is not interchangeable with the one you have unless you buy a aftermarket internal slave cylinder (when using the LT1 trans). You'll also need a pulse manipulation box to make your speedo read correctly. Don't forget a new cross member too. And if you're lucky like me and had custom 3" exhaust with long tube headers, you'll need a new mid pipe too.

Here's what you can expect:
$900-Trans (that's what I got mine for)
$80- Dakota Digital SGI-5
$305-Comp 6 puck clutch (one of the cheapest I found)
$105-Trans Xmember (I made my own)

That doesn't include what you're going to do for the hydraulics or exhaust. Adds up.

Other option is to buy another T5 from me
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/engi...634316-t5.html
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Re: T5 to T56 questions

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I'm going to be using my third gen slave for my swap. The bolt locations are the same, although it's clocked a little differently. I removed the plastic line, cut out the stock metal barbed fittings, and am going to use some press on bendable air line purchased from a local hydraulic hose supplier. They told me it's good to 300psi and is oil resistant and would work good.
Props to you for trying something different, but the T5 and LT1 T56 slave are not the same thing. Maybe you can make it work, though. I've never heard of anyone doing that.

GM LT1 T56 hydraulic setups generally come pre-bled as one whole unit.

What clutch are you using? Ive never heard of "Comp", but Im in dire need a cheap performance clutch. Got a link or anything?

Originally Posted by VandykeT/A
What is the usual cost of doing the swap? Do you think it would be worth the effort of trying to have my T5 fixed? I'm thinking I broke a fork or something and it made a slight whining noise at low speeds before. I also don't know if I'm going to be making to much power for it. Its a 305, performer intake, 650 edelbrock carb, full 3 inch exhaust, XE268 cam. The car ran extremely strong for what it is I thought.
I'd budget around $2000-$2500 for the swap, but T56 prices seem to have gone down, so maybe $2000 will do it.

New GM Hydraulics (A good investment if you ask me) - $200
Stock replacement clutch - $220
Decent aftermarket shifter - $200 (optional)
New crossmember - $150
2 pc RMS conversion flywheel - $400?
Digital->Analog speedo conversion box - $250? Not sure.

It adds up in a hurry.

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http://www.competitionclutch.com/

http://jbautosports.com/competition_.../i-404288.aspx

That's the clutch I got and where I got it from. Excellent guys to deal with and great customer service.
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Re: T5 to T56 questions

I've got 3 4th gens so I've got several spare shifter combos. For what I'm going to have in it wouldn't I be better off finding a higher mileage LT1 car and just scraping it out. You find raged out LT1 cars for around 3k fairly often. I just think the odds of getting a perfectly working M6 out of a junkyard is going to very unlikely and not just anyone can rebuild those and the ones who can don't do it cheap. I've had two of mine rebuilt and ended up with around 3k in just those two. A local Aamco had the one in my camaro apart 6 times and on the 7th try I took them to Tick performance in Mooreville NC and haven't had a problem.
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That's because Aamco sucks.
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