Go Back   Third Generation F-Body Message Boards > Tech Boards > V6
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?

V6 Discussion and questions about the base carbureted or MPFI V6's and the rare SFI Turbo V6.

Welcome to ThirdGen.org!
Welcome to ThirdGen.org.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, join the ThirdGen.org community today!


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 10-24-2008, 05:30 PM   #51
Supreme Member
 
project89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Utah
Posts: 3,691
Car: 89 RS 89 iroc 87 firebird
Engine: 3.1 w/ 60-1 Turbo/ 350 / 3.0 turbo
Transmission: a4 w/ 4500 stall/ a4 / t5
Axle/Gears: strange s60 /w 3:42's

Classifieds Rating: (1)
Re: Thought you guys would like to see this

alright let me know
project89 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2008, 06:23 PM   #52
Moderator
 
Six_Shooter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 2,622
Car: 1973 Datsun 240Z/ 1985 S-15 Jimmy
Engine: Turbo 2.8L I6/To be decided
Transmission: 5-speed/T-5
Axle/Gears: R200 3.90/7.5" 3.73

Classifieds Rating: (1)
Re: Thought you guys would like to see this

Quote:
Originally Posted by project89 View Post
mine isnt striped down yet and loner himself posted int his thread the car is shy of 3,000 pounds

my car goes over the scales at just over 3400 as it sits

ur god forsaken heads suck flat out now u stfu

acording to u guys those heads flow sooooo much better that thing should be making 75-100 hp more then me fwd or not that much extra power that thing should still be a good .750 faster then me
OMG, you're such an idiot!!!

Put on a dyno, I'm sure it is making more power, I'm talking engine dynos, not chassis dynos, since they are two different drivelines, and the tranny Loner is using just plain EATS power, the 4T40/45Es take more power and weigh more than the 700R4.

Tranfering weight off the drive wheels, is always going to slow down the vehicle, FWD or RWD, in this case FWD, there's also the issue of wheel alignment when it comes to drive wheels and in FWD this is always changing depending on inclination of the chassis (wheel droop), steering angle (how far the wheel is turned, figured I'd have to explain that to you like everything else), chassis roll (how far the chassis is leaning to onw side or another, yes this DOES happen with FWD).

Gearing is not matched well, and I know his tune is perfect, it's pretty fat the last time I heard.

Numbers don't lie, the genIII heads out flow the genI heads by quite a bit more. There is no denying that. The issue is getting everything matched, and I haven't seen anyone truely match the genIII set-up yet.

You just have to look at what some of the Fiero guys have done, the most they can get seems to be about 220 HP out of the iron heads N/A, WL has over 300 HP out of his 3500 N/A, and you're still going to sit there and tell me with a straight face that the iron head is better?
You're a bigger idiot than I gave you credit for.
Six_Shooter is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2008, 06:31 PM   #53
Supreme Member
 
project89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Utah
Posts: 3,691
Car: 89 RS 89 iroc 87 firebird
Engine: 3.1 w/ 60-1 Turbo/ 350 / 3.0 turbo
Transmission: a4 w/ 4500 stall/ a4 / t5
Axle/Gears: strange s60 /w 3:42's

Classifieds Rating: (1)
Re: Thought you guys would like to see this

hmm and u dont think that my converter that was stalled to 4500 from 3k and actually goes to dam near 6k isnt losing a hole **** ton of power?
or the fact im still running a 4:10 rear gear


turning the wheels huh the cars going in a striaght line unless hes got some massive spin comming out of the hole hes gonna be pointed stright.

and he aint massivly spinning with a 2.0 60

gearing please the gearing in the 700 is a joke for a turbo car specially that low *** first gear im not even 40 ft off the line and im already shifting into second

that thing should be so much faster with all the advantages it has over the iron head motor and my setup and its not period end of story.

i dont give a flying **** that its fwd his 60 1/8 and 1/4 time all match he aint spinning hes not loosing traction the mph and et is dead on for what it ran so is the 1/8 time
project89 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2008, 06:40 PM   #54
Moderator
 
Six_Shooter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 2,622
Car: 1973 Datsun 240Z/ 1985 S-15 Jimmy
Engine: Turbo 2.8L I6/To be decided
Transmission: 5-speed/T-5
Axle/Gears: R200 3.90/7.5" 3.73

Classifieds Rating: (1)
Re: Thought you guys would like to see this

I'm done with you, anybody that has been around drag racing knows there's steering involved, especially in a FWD vehicle. On top of that experianced racers know that a FWD car making the same power as a RWD car WILL be slower, with a disparity of anywhere between 1 to 2 seconds different.

Like F_F said, put that engine in a RWD, then it will show what it's capable of.
Six_Shooter is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2008, 06:43 PM   #55
Supreme Member
 
project89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Utah
Posts: 3,691
Car: 89 RS 89 iroc 87 firebird
Engine: 3.1 w/ 60-1 Turbo/ 350 / 3.0 turbo
Transmission: a4 w/ 4500 stall/ a4 / t5
Axle/Gears: strange s60 /w 3:42's

Classifieds Rating: (1)
Re: Thought you guys would like to see this

ive raced my share of fwd cars i know all about it

pfft same power 1-2 seconds slower try again only a few tenths 2-3
and hes already made up for that with the wieght diff
project89 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2008, 04:41 PM   #56
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Long island Ny
Posts: 193
Car: 86 F-Bird
Engine: 2.8L v6

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: Thought you guys would like to see this

^^ i think you should hit your engine with more boost and nitrous.
nixon5 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2008, 04:41 PM
ThirdGen
1992 Camaro




Paid Advertisement


Reply

Go Back   Third Generation F-Body Message Boards > Tech Boards > V6

Tags
31003500, beretta, end, swap, top
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

 


1982 Camaro '82 || 1983 Camaro '83 || 1984 Camaro '84 || 1985 Camaro '85 || 1986 Camaro '86 || 1987 Camaro '87 || 1988 Camaro '88 || 1989 Camaro '89 || 1990 Camaro '90 || 1991 Camaro '91 || 1992 Camaro '92


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:44 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright © 1997 - 2012 ThirdGen.org. All rights reserved. No part of this website may be reproduced without the expressed, documented, and written consent of ThirdGen.org's Administrators.

Emails & Contact Details