V6Discussion and questions about the base carbureted or MPFI V6's and the rare SFI Turbo V6.
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u can spin any of the v6 motors up that high though a stock 2.6/3.1/3.4 wont make it that high.ive posted the data logs of mine going to 7,400 or 7,600 rpms,its just gota be able to breathe up that high and make useable power.otherwise theres no reason to even try
yea. i know i have gotten my camaro with a 5 speed up to 120mph @ 4700 and i had to stop do to traffic. my speedo went back to 20 mph or something around there hahaha good thing for gps :-D
do urself a favor ifu get an achor brand replacement mount from ur local parts store dont even bother installing it, the rubber is very soft and the mount tears with only moderate abuse.if u can deal with the vibrations from a poly mount go for the energy suspension mount,ull never bust a trans mount again.
do urself a favor ifu get an achor brand replacement mount from ur local parts store dont even bother installing it, the rubber is very soft and the mount tears with only moderate abuse.if u can deal with the vibrations from a poly mount go for the energy suspension mount,ull never bust a trans mount again.
was that to me? and if so thanks i keep breaking mine, and where could i get the poly mount, and how much vibrations? could i just make one out of metal? cuz my uncle has a shop where he does metal fab. ?
mmm i wonder if a firebird or a z28 iroc would hold up at 145 even 130,
i know my car was screaming and so was everyone on the road that night
COME ON MORE STORIES TAKE IT TO THE LIMIT
91 formula LB9 5 speed. Buried the 140 mph speedo in 5th with the rpms at 4600 and the stock 3.42 rear end. She was smooth as silk and did not take long at all to get there. I shifter from 4th to 5th at about 110 -115 mph. The car did not come with a speed limiter or a rev limiter from the factory. So the right 3rd gen firebird or camaro in stock form will do 150 without a problem.
I used to have a slightly modified 3.1l 1990 firebird a long time ago, and I have easily hit the speed limiter between 115 and 120. The car had more in it. To get it to shift in OD at that speed, you need to let off the gas slightly to let the tranny shift, and then apply gentle pressure on the gas so it doesn't downshift and she will do fine. I would estimate that a healthy 3.1L without the limiter will top out around 125 - 130 mph.
Ah. Then I'll hook it up. I think my computer knows how fast I'm going. My speedo has been way off since the 4.11's. Lol. Its about 15% off. I go about 75 to do 60.
u can spin any of the v6 motors up that high though a stock 2.6/3.1/3.4 wont make it that high.ive posted the data logs of mine going to 7,400 or 7,600 rpms,its just gota be able to breathe up that high and make useable power.otherwise theres no reason to even try
Hopefully not on the stock rods... the pre-3500 rods are only rated for 7K RPM from GM.. lol
they haven't given the 3500 and newer rods a RPM limit yet, but they're forged powdered metal so should hold to 7500+ I don't plan on finding out though.
do urself a favor ifu get an achor brand replacement mount from ur local parts store dont even bother installing it, the rubber is very soft and the mount tears with only moderate abuse.if u can deal with the vibrations from a poly mount go for the energy suspension mount,ull never bust a trans mount again.
-.- now u tell me omg i took 4 hours to get the hell rusted bolts out damn it o well Im going have to change them after that 100 shots goes in their pray i only break a tran mount
I love this all the people that went out just to see how fast they can go that's what it's about live on the edge and push it to the limit ok let change it up a bit mmmm longest burnouts come on ppl smoke them tire even pop them let see how long u go 'one wheel wonder'
I hit 115 daily on the way to work, and I have so much left.
Im putting mine at about 140-150,, with the gearing to go 200+ if I had
the power.
at 110, Im just over 3000RPM in OD
at 115 its just starting to pull hard
at 125 i usually back off b/c i am not on a track
and do not want to loose my privilege.
But that lasar/radar scanner comes in handy.
Only mods to the car are Moroso Procoil F
dynomax super turbo cat back
and a worked 'silver bullet' (transgo shift kit, kevlar, corvete alum. servo etc.)
transmission from TCC on ebay.
and corvette 2250 stall
I also have new suspension (gr2's and moog springs)
UMI panhard/ LCA's / wonderbar
not that those would really make any diff here, but just laying it all out.
If you wanna call my Rapid fire delco plugs, and my bosch wires a mod, ok
Keep in mine my engine is in really good shape and fully tuned up.
Kuker, I assume you have a v6 in a 3rd gen? Not a 4th? 3.8's and 350's can stfu and stay out of our threads if they are only going to bash.
And I really don't see 140 possible with an iron head V6. I like the 3500 though! Awesome speed to hit, I wonder how it will change with wind resistance added Sweet engine, way better than the RWD stuff. Burnout video? That would be awesome! I'll have to do both tires though.
I hit 115 daily on the way to work, and I have so much left.
Im putting mine at about 140-150,, with the gearing to go 200+ if I had
the power.
at 110, Im just over 3000RPM in OD
at 115 its just starting to pull hard
at 125 i usually back off b/c i am not on a track
and do not want to loose my privilege.
But that lasar/radar scanner comes in handy.
Only mods to the car are Moroso Procoil F
dynomax super turbo cat back
and a worked 'silver bullet' (transgo shift kit, kevlar, corvete alum. servo etc.)
transmission from TCC on ebay.
and corvette 2250 stall
I also have new suspension (gr2's and moog springs)
UMI panhard/ LCA's / wonderbar
not that those would really make any diff here, but just laying it all out.
If you wanna call my Rapid fire delco plugs, and my bosch wires a mod, ok
Keep in mine my engine is in really good shape and fully tuned up.
Only way you're getting 140-150 is with different gearing. You say you've got some trans from "TCC on ebay", so maybe you do. And the top gear would have to be damn tall. But there's no way the stock engine RPM limit, trans, rear end and wheel size can go that fast. mathematically impossible.
I love when people try and make claims that aren't possible.
Oh, and you're awesome for doing 115+ daily, we all wish we could endanger ourselves and others so often. I'm not one to complain about people speeding, but 115mph everyday is a bit much.
I won't believe you can hit even 140mph unless I at least see a video. Which you won't provide as you can't go that fast. Keep believing what you want, but anyone with half a brain knows it's BS.
Ive done atleast 120 and it wasn't that hard, as its always some kid on the eway in some 90s FWD car and I stick with em side by side like Im trying, looking over doing movie shots, till they hit the speed limiter and fall behind quickly. And thats 110-115 in most cars.
But I do the excat same thing to them in my big Buick V8 wagon.
Stab it hard and watch em get more annoyed that they can't pass a 4ton pig.
Only way you're getting 140-150 is with different gearing. You say you've got some trans from "TCC on ebay", so maybe you do. And the top gear would have to be damn tall. But there's no way the stock engine RPM limit, trans, rear end and wheel size can go that fast. mathematically impossible.
I love when people try and make claims that aren't possible.
Oh, and you're awesome for doing 115+ daily, we all wish we could endanger ourselves and others so often. I'm not one to complain about people speeding, but 115mph everyday is a bit much.
I won't believe you can hit even 140mph unless I at least see a video. Which you won't provide as you can't go that fast. Keep believing what you want, but anyone with half a brain knows it's BS.
lol keep them coming ppl i will soon post my video on youtube i just need to edit it and make it shorter
Dirt ovals that arent open to the public anyway arent going
to help me meng, espec when they only 1/8 - 1/4 mile
I live near the middle town one,, all they do is oval track cars on
that a few times a year.
are u talking about a race track because on a race track you wouldn't even get to 80 before having to brake at a turn and these car don't turn on a dime
and even if u hit a 100 you would be take off for safe no roll cage, fire suit, and a stock car yea no way you could hit 140 on a track oval track ur side into the wall on street tires
140 should be possiable with the room to rev out 4th.
Long as you get to redline in each gear.
redline in 1-3 isn't that hard.
running up to redline in 1-2 goes quick.
Plenty of gearing and HP but beating the air will depend. headwind, cross wind. tail wind, sure you could easily find out by looking up slat flat run. They got a record for every car made, lots of stock classes.
I feel like maybe I got an edge now, with my new hatch, air noticable flows over the car faster/easier. I know cause before I never had bird problems. But now I am having to brake ever time as the bird can't seem to get out of the air streem like before. Big and little birds, don't matter, they get pulled down just barley getting away. I never had that happen before, they always broke free and wern't about to eat shield. Even if I sped up
To add justification to my previous stupidity, I've got an auto. So I was thinking the 4 speed w/ OD can't do it. Not sure on the math for that.
Anyways, no way a stock engine, even with some better parts would touch 140+mph. Wind, as Gumby said, is a problem. The front end on a 3rd gen Camaro is a friggin brick.
Plus, you'll need some pretty good tires to hold together at those speeds.
Yea a slush box car will be much different, allot is just in the gearing.
Here is some more gearing to pounder.
Thats an iron duke 4 cylinder out of a 3rd gen.
It doesn't need power as gearing make it a great swamp hunting rig.
But its the wind that will say, whats what on top speed.
I read an article a while ago about how a guy hit 200mph with 300hp in a 3rd gen camaro. So getting a 200hp (best case NA RWD 3.4L V6) to 200mph seems very unlikely. Even 140 looks very iffy. This arguement can only be solved with data logs.
lololol 200mph HAHAH what a joke with these boats u need one of them drag motor with 5000hp to even think of that, at 150 i think the firebird will become a bird alright
I was serious. He had a dyno proven 300hp V8 engine and had to change a lot on the chassis to hit 200mph. No mirrors, spoiler changes (used the RS little lip), underchassis aerodynamics, and just about everything. So since wind resistance is a square of the speed and the 2.8 V6 has little power, I doubt anyone can hit 140 without some serious effort.
If I sucked the nose down to the pavement and out in that 3.4l motor I have had sitting in my garage now for a few years, I guarantee I could breach 150 in mine with the autotrans (No my trans is far from stock) with the gearing I have.
I just got my truck to the 152 mark and its far more an areodynimic brick than the Camaro is. I do not know what you guys are thinking saying these cars are not areodynamically sound, they are. Its just anything at that speed needs to have power to push it just off of things like tire rolling resistance. Just by ptting thinner tires back on my car could give me the 140 mark. Its just a street car though, not my racecar, so I am not going to alter things just to prove this point. (Beside, I do not have the car in m possesion currently- major divorce going on, I have wrote this car off, it was hers)
My truck has a Dakota digital dash with highspeed recall
Camaro chasing down a Vintage GT40 in the corners, but he wastes me down the straights photos 1-6 on that page you see him pull on me on the short straight, then I jump him back through the high speed sweeper, then hes gone again down the longer back stright. I gain a little back on every corner. Note: I AM ON STREET TIRES, he is on race tires...wider race tires at that. I pulled 123 around the high bank turn one- http://www.cardomain.com/ride/518752/8
ok well u didnt say all that i was thing he slapped on some engine mods and was like this can hit 200 vooooomm lol it had to take a long time and the miles he had to have so good tire to my tires are only rated for 165 safe after that bye bye
omg what is that hatch called i want it and i cant find it anywhere
You and everyone else, can't find out who made it, in all I have found pics of several types, near a dozen but none like it. Found it new, unused for $175
[And the guy who wound up with it has no idea, been traded around shop to shop for years.]
You and everyone else, can't find out who made it, in all I have found pics of several types, near a dozen but none like it. Found it new, unused for $175
[And the guy who wound up with it has no idea, been traded around shop to shop for years.]
Best money ever spent.
look like a custom job pimer black and it looks fiber to mmmmm i need to check at some swap meets u sooooo lucky becuase i hate the big glass hatch my friend had a crack that cut the thing in half and he to replace it
It was the typical grey color, they haad hit it with some grey primer where it was dirty on the edges. Thing has been traded around shops but was never used. I know cause the spot for the hiinges need to be flat, would of never fit as it was.
I hit it will cheap rattle can flate black, once it was dry enough to sand on, the spray marks went away. In that pic it was also just sitting there, sanded to clean up spraymarks, over spray off window gone, bolted on and got it to latch close. Not using the shocks as they are to strong, the corners lift up and it don't seal. And I got a brand new soft seal. It does weigh allot less, I gained about 2in in height in the rear, use to have an even ride. Gotta fix it as I don't like the jacked up look.