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Old 05-15-2009, 12:42 PM   #1
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hate to get rid of it but i got a kick *** job up here and im saving for a new camaro,wont have the room to have 2 toys
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Well that stinks (for us). I'm looking to go 12.9, so your car was a good source of inspiration and parts knowledge. I'm sure I'd trade mine for a new Camaro too.
LT or SS?
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Old 05-15-2009, 07:58 PM   #3
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Well that stinks (for us). I'm looking to go 12.9, so your car was a good source of inspiration and parts knowledge. I'm sure I'd trade mine for a new Camaro too.
LT or SS?
im not to sure right now really it comes down to price, or if the aftermarket completly looks over the v6 motor,

as long as there is a way to tune the v6 motors ill deff be getting an LT and it wont be long before i drop a turbo on it
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where abouts in new york are you located now. Id love to check out your car. I look at all your posts just WISHING i could do this to my car. Im not very good at fab work nor do i have the tools and equipment to do a turbo set up. Either way id love to see it once in person before someone gets there hands on it and rips it apart or something.
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Old 05-15-2009, 10:48 PM   #5
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im not to sure right now really it comes down to price, or if the aftermarket completly looks over the v6 motor,

as long as there is a way to tune the v6 motors ill deff be getting an LT and it wont be long before i drop a turbo on it
the V6 isnt always looked over, look at the 3.8, newer and old.

also 4.3's are popular. neither are as cheap to build as the small block, but im sure you already know that.

its a beautiful car, good luck with the new one, i like the third gen more than the new ones.
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Old 05-16-2009, 12:24 AM   #6
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where abouts in new york are you located now. Id love to check out your car. I look at all your posts just WISHING i could do this to my car. Im not very good at fab work nor do i have the tools and equipment to do a turbo set up. Either way id love to see it once in person before someone gets there hands on it and rips it apart or something.
im up in cosyuna/greenwich area about 10-15 mins off the vt border,or so ive been told like 30-45 mins form lebanon valley race track

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the V6 isnt always looked over, look at the 3.8, newer and old.

also 4.3's are popular. neither are as cheap to build as the small block, but im sure you already know that.

its a beautiful car, good luck with the new one, i like the third gen more than the new ones.
we already know these v6's can handle the power,its more my concern over what can be done with the direct injection system as far as tuneabiltiy
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ya i know where that is....that would be a road trip for me tho...new york is a pretty big state. Well good luck on everything man. Your car has been a huge inspiration to me. Id love to boost my v6 but will most likely end up just dropping a 350 or 383 in with no computer, emissions or anything and just call it a day. The new camaros are nice. My buddy just sent me a text the other day cause his dad bought a new 2010 Camaro LT. Its yellow which idk if im so crazy about but its FAST for a six(so ive been told). I might go out and take a look at it this weekend if the weather holds out. If you boost one of those that would just be crazy. You will have to get rid of alot of stuff tho. The engine bays are just jam packed.
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How much ya looking for man that car is sick
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If only I lived on the East coast...
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Old 05-18-2009, 08:06 PM   #10
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Minor surface rust on passenger side rear quater panel,
needs new paint maco job on it now and its fadded and thin in spots

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brand new kb pistions (8.5-1 cr)
plasmamoly rings
king engine bearings
arp rod bolts
factory crank and rods
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hi volume hi preasure oil pump (60 psi idle 110 psi redline)
custom grind delta camshaft 268/272 hyd flat
new lifters (modified for high rpm )
comp cams pushrods
comp cams springs locks and retainers
springs are 125# seat 340# open
massivley ported heads
ported intake 3 piece unit + one sheetmetal upper plenum

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321 & 316L stainless headers 1.5 inch primarys .065 wall. 3 inch to 2.5 inch reducer collectors
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c-clip elimns ( not installed)
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1le springs in rear
1le sway bars fr/rr
wonder bar
lcarbs
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morroso drag springs up front


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nos brand wet nitrous system setup as dual nozzle 100 shot never used it
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megasquirt 1 v2.2 standalone ( setup for fual and ign with antilag, knock detection, and nitrous control)
dual walboro 255 lph pumps
custom boost refrenced fpr
2 rear 15x8 weld draglights w 28x10 slicks mounted
1 spare block
1 spare set of rods and pistions
1 spare crank ( short stroke 2.8L)

+ more spare parts and other parts i can think of atm

car dynoed 268 whp and 370 ftlbs on a mustang dyno with only 9 psi and 8* total ignition timming
car cuts 1.8 60's on 245/55/r16 street tires and 1.7- on the slicks launching at 2-3 psi of boost
car is a solid 12.50 car on low boost 9-10 psi once dialed in
should run low mid to low 11's on high boost

avg 32mpg highway,deff makes a nice lil sleeper

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Old 05-18-2009, 09:57 PM   #11
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you didnt post how much??? or is that against the rules
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Old 05-18-2009, 10:09 PM   #12
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you didnt post how much??? or is that against the rules

i did but i shoulda labeled it price

asking 6k with all spare parts (still need ot make a full list)
but negotiable on the price
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.... lol, how the hell did I miss this thread.

Good luck with the move man....
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Old 05-23-2009, 01:17 PM   #14
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thnx man its nice up here, im about 45 mins from lebanon valley.
ill be back down in jersey next weekend if the cars not sold its comming to ny with me and ill keep it.

but a lt camaro is def fin the near future,got a nice job up here started at 17.50 an hour woooot
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Old 05-30-2009, 08:56 AM   #15
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Congrats!!!

Thank you for posting about your engine, I plan on doing a similar build. What type of piston style was it? Domed, Flat, etc. ? If the crank and rods were also forged would it be able to take higher boost?
Again congrats on the new job

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Old 05-30-2009, 10:36 PM   #16
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the pistions are dished,no need to upgrade the crank or rods, arp main studs and arp rodbolts are all u will need, u will break the block before u need to worrry about rods and crank
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