Go Back   Third Generation F-Body Message Boards > Tech Boards > V6
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?

V6 Discussion and questions about the base carbureted or MPFI V6's and the rare SFI Turbo V6.

Welcome to ThirdGen.org!
Welcome to ThirdGen.org.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, join the ThirdGen.org community today!


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 09-28-2009, 01:59 PM   #1
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: peterborough UK
Posts: 470
Car: 88 T firebird
Engine: 2.8
Transmission: t5

Classifieds Rating: (0)
injector swap Q's

hi, im putting 3.4 injectors in my 2.8, the new ones look dirtier inside than the old ones, should i soak in injector cleaner - fuel additive stuff ? to clean them up before fitting ?
also all the o rings are in good condition but feel alittle dry, should i soak them in something before refitting?
thanks Ant
zs&tas is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2009, 02:15 PM   #2
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 30
Car: 85 firebird
Engine: 3.1L v6
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: injector swap Q's

o rings are cheap buy new ones. serisouly there is no reason to cheap out on orings. Other than that I have no idea.
DemonKnight is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2009, 03:44 PM   #3
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Chasing Electrons
Posts: 11,385
Car: check
Engine: check
Transmission: check

Classifieds Rating: (1)
Re: injector swap Q's

Quote:
Originally Posted by zs&tas View Post
hi, im putting 3.4 injectors in my 2.8, the new ones look dirtier inside than the old ones, should i soak in injector cleaner - fuel additive stuff ? to clean them up before fitting ?
also all the o rings are in good condition but feel alittle dry, should i soak them in something before refitting?
thanks Ant
Unless you can do some tuning on the calibration I wouldn't use an injector that large.

I believe that the 3.4l injectors are also Multecs. If so I wouldn't use them just for that reason. Get yourself some Bosch injectors, you will be a lot better off in the end.

As for cleaning. I use a 6V AC transformer to cycle them while giving them a bath of mineral spirits (paint thinner) in an ultrasonic cleaner. The ultrasonic is one of the small household ones. Usually 3 injectors fit at a time and I use a small metal can instead of the plastic one.

I use motor oil on the o-rings prior to installation.

RBob.
__________________

www.DynamicEFI.com

'92 Camaro in Dark Green Gray Metallic
RBob is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2009, 06:45 PM   #4
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Middletown, NY
Posts: 30
Car: 1991 RS
Engine: 350
Transmission: 350 turbo
Axle/Gears: 3.73

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: injector swap Q's

I have a set of 6 injectors that are good to go if wanted. looking for 50 bucks for the set. 8456991404 -tom
tman1753 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2009, 08:01 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
bl85c's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: right behind you
Posts: 2,281
Car: '85 maro
Engine: Hybrid 3.4
Transmission: TH700 R4
Axle/Gears: 3.73 posi

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: injector swap Q's

I tried the 3.4 injectors awhile ago and I didn't like the response- compared to F1ZE's anyway. Felt like I would've had to add alot of 'pump shot' to the accel enrich table to get it to respond like the F1ZE's.
__________________
Increasingly I find the difference between a 'fact' and opinion is the number of people that believe it.

3.4 block converted to roller valvetrain with 220/225 cam on 115 lsa, early '769' heads with 3500 valves, LS6 springs & mild porting, worked over heddman headers, 3500 plenum with ported 3400 lower & 'short star' 65mm throttle. 210hp at 5800ft (that's 270hp at sealevel )
bl85c is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2009, 11:52 PM   #6
Supreme Member
 
Maverick H1L's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: LeRoy, NY
Posts: 5,570
Car: 1987 Firebird... in pieces.
Engine: 3.1L V6 LH0 soon to be 3100
Transmission: Borg-Warner T-5
Axle/Gears: 2HL 3.42 open

Classifieds Rating: (6)
Send a message via AIM to Maverick H1L Send a message via Yahoo to Maverick H1L
Re: injector swap Q's

RBob, that's good info for the injector cleaning. Where might I nab one of those AC transformers?

As for the 3.4 injectors, your engine WILL be running rich and throwing a code 45, even if they don't leak (which is why I removed them... they are also the same ones used on the 3100). The stock injectors are rated between 14 and 15.5#/hr, and the 3.4 injectors are about 18.4#, IIRC. I posted a link a few months back to a site that had injector reference data. I thought I had the site bookmarked for reference, but I don't.
Maverick H1L is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2009, 08:41 AM   #7
TGO Supporter
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: AR
Posts: 6,773
Car: 1991 Camaro RS Vert
Engine: 350 S-TPI
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: GU5/G80/J65

Classifieds Rating: (11)
Re: injector swap Q's

3.4 are around 17lb.

I installed 17's in my 3.1 and it ran real rich but no codes.
Dale is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2009, 09:18 AM   #8
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Chasing Electrons
Posts: 11,385
Car: check
Engine: check
Transmission: check

Classifieds Rating: (1)
Re: injector swap Q's

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maverick H1L View Post
RBob, that's good info for the injector cleaning. Where might I nab one of those AC transformers?
You can use something like this one from Radio Shack:

12.6V CT 3.0A Chassis-Mount Transformer with Leads
Model: 273-1511 | Catalog #: 273-1511

More info on their site. With it having a center tap (CT), wire injectors between one leg and the center tap. That will provide 6.3V to an injector.

Note that both legs can be used. So wire one injector between one leg and the CT, then another injector between the other leg and the CT.

Being a 3A output can easily run 4 injectors (two on each leg in parallel) at a time.


Can also wire injectors in series across the two legs. Need to do this in pairs and the CT won't get used.

RBob.
RBob is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2009, 10:24 PM   #9
Sponsor
 
southbay08's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 736

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: injector swap Q's

We have 15lb and 17lb bosch injectors in stock that are cleaned and flowtested and come with a 3 year warranty, if you are interested we will be more than happy to give you a discounted price.
pm
info@southbayfuelinjectors.com
516-492-6504
southbay08 is online now vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2009, 05:06 PM   #10
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: peterborough UK
Posts: 470
Car: 88 T firebird
Engine: 2.8
Transmission: t5

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: injector swap Q's

good info guys thanks, the ecu will adjust somewhat so i shouldnt run too rich, it gives me more scope for tuning in the future, and eventually when a 3.4 finds its way in there anyways :-)
emisions wise, i dont need any of my emisions gubins or a cat to pass my emisions test - UK
thanks again
zs&tas is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2009, 05:06 PM
ThirdGen
1992 Camaro




Paid Advertisement


Reply

Go Back   Third Generation F-Body Message Boards > Tech Boards > V6

Tags
2731511, 31, 34, 92, body, camaro, injector, injectors, model, reference, swap, transformer
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

 


1982 Camaro '82 || 1983 Camaro '83 || 1984 Camaro '84 || 1985 Camaro '85 || 1986 Camaro '86 || 1987 Camaro '87 || 1988 Camaro '88 || 1989 Camaro '89 || 1990 Camaro '90 || 1991 Camaro '91 || 1992 Camaro '92


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:15 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright © 1997 - 2012 ThirdGen.org. All rights reserved. No part of this website may be reproduced without the expressed, documented, and written consent of ThirdGen.org's Administrators.

Emails & Contact Details