V6Discussion and questions about the base carbureted or MPFI V6's and the rare SFI Turbo V6.
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Ok guy's. I called the bender people again friday. Was REAL nice and everything. Die(1 3/8) still not ready, BUT they DO HAVE A 1 1/2", that will increase the runner ID to 1 3/8. THAT SHOULD BE HERE BY NEXT FRIDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. I went ahead and got the bigger one. I did some reading and the biggest size that you want to run on the V6's is 1 5/8 for pure race motors. So the larger diam will do nothing but help over the 1 1/4"
SO hopefully through next weekend I can start some preliminary stuff to get used to the bender and start the weekend after that on the ship out stuff.
PLEASE DO NOT FLOOD MY EMAIL WITH ORDERS/REQUESTS YET. I WILL POST WHEN A SET IS DONE AND UP FOR SALE. Dead 8 WILL BE THE FIRST TO GET A SET. PERIOD. After that I will try to make 3 sets a week. And 1 maybe 2 sets will be available through me the other will be on ebay.
PLEASE KNOW THAT THE SET THAT I WILL BE POSTING PICS OF ARE FOR DEAD HERO 8 AND HE HAS REQUESTED NOT TO HAVE AN EGR. I AM STILL TRING TO FIND A DECENT PRICE ON A SCAP YARD SET SO I CAN GET THE EGR PLATE STUFF SO I CAN MAKE THE EGR MOUNTABLE ON THE NEW HEADERS.
As for prices, the base set is $150 plus UPS S&H. Weight 25 pounds, from Zip 62999. I will also offer Stainless Steel versions. THESE ARE ABOUT TWICE THE PRICE OF THE BASE SET. Why?, S/S tubing costs 4-6 times more per foot over the mild steel alloy that I am using on the regular headers.
These will be hit with a high temp aluminum colored paint before shipping. They may arrive with some scatches, I will do my best to pack them to try to keep them from getting scatched up. if they do get scratched, I am only using the paint available at NAPA, Trash Auto, Auto Zone ect so they can easily be patched up.
Fell free to email me WITH QUESTIONS, if you want. My ISP sucks(I dropped them too) and I can only get online now at a freinds house or at school, so it may take me a while to get back to you. Sorry.
told ya it would work out .Just needed to give it a little more time ! good job Hunter !
__________________ Wayne
OLD RIDE - I MISS IT BAD !!!!! :-(
88 White rs camaro new 2.8 motor , dynomax muf, gutted cat ,homemade ramair , Hypertech coil ,Accel 8mm spiral core wires , Bluestreak cap and rotor ,Accel fuel injectors, Hypertech 160 thermastat, Shiftkit with corvette servo and corvette upshift sleeve. .471 boost valve - I Love those neck snapping shifts
NEW RIDE - 98 silver camaro
t-tops , 5 star alloy wheels
What time is it?:lala: Time to dance like fools and start doin this LOL....
Ever saw the dancing Bush on www.miniclips.com . I bet your dancing like that ! heh ...bush even does a split .They also have a clip of him dancing with Britney spears and he does a kinda nasty move with her !
__________________ Wayne
OLD RIDE - I MISS IT BAD !!!!! :-(
88 White rs camaro new 2.8 motor , dynomax muf, gutted cat ,homemade ramair , Hypertech coil ,Accel 8mm spiral core wires , Bluestreak cap and rotor ,Accel fuel injectors, Hypertech 160 thermastat, Shiftkit with corvette servo and corvette upshift sleeve. .471 boost valve - I Love those neck snapping shifts
NEW RIDE - 98 silver camaro
t-tops , 5 star alloy wheels
when u get the turbo headers done I'll start flooding your e-mail
__________________ 1977 T/A - sold
1985 Firebird - sold
1994 Camaro - sold
1978 Formula - 400 --> 463 beast winter buildup
1987 T/A - LB9 former dd project, make an offer
thats awsome man, good luck this weekend. andthanks for rememberin that i didnt want an egr or that 1 7/8s piece, just a 2.5 collector.
-Bruce
p.s. hows college man?
__________________ Black '86 Camaro
.040 over
204 214 cam
flowmaster
ported plenums & intake
drilled out underneath filters
K & N
(its to bad deadhero is just a shell...again, poor boy)
88 Red Camaro
drilled out underneath filters
Student Tech at_F_O_R_D dealership
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Xenodrgn: pronounced: "Zeenodragon"
1985 Camaro SC, 2.8 auto
Best run: DA corrected, 17.211 @ 79.01 MPH
With major wheel spin and injectors that spray like a garden hose...
My Vortecs are in the trunk!
Due next spring: 350/700R4!
Project: "Go 13's on a $1500 budget!"
Ok I called today to make sure they got the Shipping INFO right. They did and it should have been shipped thisafternoon(Monday) I asked them to send me the tracking number so I will keep an eye out for that and keep track of it. It should only take a few days to get here from Central Inidana. The bender I know took like 3 days. So.... I am looking for the tubing now I think I found it locally again(thank G O D)
I also found a cheap supplier for welding spools so I am going to convert to MIG(And I even found aluminum spools that do not need conversion once I start doing the intake stuff!!)
Originally posted by loomdog32 rite on.. i would want a set, but im guessing that there not goin to be carb certificed? i HATE smog.. i HATE IT HATE IT HATE IT!!!!
mike (loomdog)
But most EPA guys will not bother you if your EGR is still hooked up. Just FYI I knew ALOT of smoggers that did not care if you were running 120 octane, but as long as you passed thats all that mattered to them. Most sniffers look to see if everything is 1 hooked up, 2 operational, 3 actually works the way it supposed too. Other then that as before aslong as you pass they could really care less.
I said before that I know a guy in the EPA(some bigshot lawyer in Illinois) Where I live, and a future brother in law. I can ask him what is required and the process to get CARB'D. If its not too long and does not cost me any $$$ I will go through the process when I get time too.
I called the people today(tuesday) and got the UPS tracking number 1Z E66 857 03 4160 052 1 for the Die. You can count down with me. It's already in central Illinois(this mourning). I should have it tommarrow. WOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOO
Well, for the sake of the guys, congrats on getting the die. Hopefully you'll have them installing headers soon.
Loomdog, you could always swap your old manifolds on just for smog... if you had a cop pull you over & check, as long as they looked good, they might not think to check. Excuse= "I just put them on."
__________________ -Tom P (Hot rodded 1986 Firebird 2.8l)
thats funny you say that check to make sure everything is hooked up and working properly. last time i went for emissions here in CT they basically sniffed the exhuast at idle and then put me up on the dyno roller thing and ran the car at 25mph and that was it. never popped the hood, and never looked at anything. and i had my home made c.a.i. in use then too. maybe CT isn't as strict as some other states...i am due up again in july and see how the numbers compare with the hooker this year....
TomP....good idea. I guess once you get the headers on and finally get the old rusted PITA stock manifold bolts out i wouldn't be that hard of a project to do before emissions inspect.....
__________________ 2003 Nissan 350z - Redline Red - VIN 4XXX
Enthusiast Model - Delivered 3/1/03
- K&N Filtercharger
- Chrome Grill
KILLS - Acura 3.2CL Type-S
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1990 Firebird 3.1 - Black [Traded In: 3/01/03]
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- Bought: 72,000 miles / Traded: 118,000 miles
- Auto Trans, TA Body Kit
- Home Made C.A.I. (KNN-RE-0810)
- ASP Underdrive Pulleys (Alt & Crank)
- MSD 8.5mm Superconducter Wires (custom-cut)
- MSD GM Blaster Coil (8226)
- AC Delco Cap & Rotor
- Bosh Platinum +4 plugs
- Mobil 1 Synthetic Fluids
- 2.5" Hooker Aero-Chamber Muffler (27121 - custom catback)
- 2.5" Hooker Elite Stainless Extension Tips (31503)
- GTS Blackouts (stickers removed - #GT034)
get your car e-checked in Enon OH, just north of the base, they never bothered to pop the hood on both cars I brought there (79T-bird & 87 Regal), but then both passed.
__________________ 1977 T/A - sold
1985 Firebird - sold
1994 Camaro - sold
1978 Formula - 400 --> 463 beast winter buildup
1987 T/A - LB9 former dd project, make an offer
Last edited by Project: 85 2.8 bird; 02-13-2002 at 09:19 AM.
I guess some states are stricter than others. And it depends on the mood the guy is in(hopefully he got laid the night before) and he may let some things slip. LOL But the few times I had smog checks in Va they do pop the hood, take a quick look around(sometimes I am beting to find something wrong so they can charge you $$$ to fix) But alot of the guys I knew there were cool about it. They saw custom headers all the time. They just did not care as long as everything was hooked up right(and it passed).
Anyway to those that did check the tracking number I got the die this mourning around 10 AM. I also ran out around 11 to get some tubes so I can mess around with this weekend. I also need to get a BIG a$$ cheater bar to bend these damn tubes!, the bender only has a 6 inch handle. BUT IT DOES WORK!. This weekend I will go out and get a drill press to make the flanges ALOT easier to deal with(BTW I have a 4 day weekend!) So thats more time for me to get this $hit straight.
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Cammy hunter, you think these will be emissions safe or what, I dont hink I will have a problem though. Will these be legal witha high flow cat and dynomax cat back, along with a costom y pipe if needed.
IF there is not a CARB number stamped on the pipes, it is NOT SMOG LEGAL.
NOW, I'd be very interested in seeing these pipes "Legal"
Please ask, I'd like to hear the "legal issues answers".
the only places i would get pulled over and they actually check for something like that would be while cruising or at the street races.. last time i checked in fresno county its a $1k fine.. 90% of the time its reduced to around $200-300. just dont let a cop look under ur hood if ur engine is set up and ready for nos..
I don't care if it's CARB or not, until I get stationed in CA that is
__________________ 1977 T/A - sold
1985 Firebird - sold
1994 Camaro - sold
1978 Formula - 400 --> 463 beast winter buildup
1987 T/A - LB9 former dd project, make an offer
i see by the ups tracking id that u have recieved it... whats the latest?
(d@mn, i [GTRick] had to make another new name, cuz i forgot my password, and my old e-mail was shut off... so i cant read the mail to get the password)
__________________ 92 camaro
-mods:2.5 Dynomax ST catback, 2.5 Catco highflow cc, Jet Stage II chip, K&N Filtercharger, new clutch, modified air box w/cold air setup with heat wall ,Brand new rebuilt distributor(cap, rotor Accel electronic supercoil, acdelco 7.5 plug wires, bosh platinum 2's running synthetics, tires are 225/60r/15 on 15x7 rs rims
-waiting 2 install:jet 180*
-dress up: Tail light + headlight blackouts(GTS) ,custom chrome anodized shifter ball alloy pedals new High performance floor matts(guarenteed 12 hp) runnin on 6 pistons doing high 7's 0-60 on a gtech
Ok the latest. I have to drill in holes into the handle so I can put on a longer cheater bar. I will try to get this done today(Me and My G/F are celebrating her birthday today) I will need a drill press for the flange's, I will be getting this in about 2 weeks when a traveling tool thing comes through. I can get one there 10 inch up/down and 5 speed for 39 bucks, with lifetime warr. Lowes has the drill bits and MIG wire I need. I have not ordered the collectors yet, That will have to be monday(sorry I completely forgot because I was wrapped up in the other stuff)
I previously stated that these would be 1 1/2 primaries, sorry there back to the 1 1/4 ID, the 1 1/2 tubing simply does not fit the die, I though that it would.
THESE WILL BE DIFFERENT THEN THE HOOKERS. I STILL CANNOT GET THOSE 3.5 IN TIGHT BENDS. Xenodragon PMed me a while back about these and I told him that there will be 2 series of these headers.
The first will be like the hedmans, the other series will be turbo compatable. COMPATABLE, with the turbo set up not only for it. They will be designed so that they can be swapped from side to side and the bend at the collector will be pointing forward for the 2-1 collector for the turbo cross pipe. Again the series 2 will be ready when I can get my motor pulled so I can make sure they fit right.