I just bought a 84 2.8 berlinetta and I had a couple of questions 1. I have 2 conectors near my carb that arent pluged into N E thing one is a single green wire and the other is 3 wires im not sure the colors. 2. Also is my 2.8 the same block as a 3.1 and if so can i pull some aluminum heads off a 3.1 and put them on without any hasles. 3. I am mostlikely buyin the edelbroke intake manifold any sugestions on a carb also can i go open element and still be smog leagal.

looks lie fiream hasn't replied yet, he did the edelbrock swap.

1. don't know, I have MPFI
2. aluminum heads "technically" will fit the block,but rwd blocks used iron heads exclusively. I'l pull a Karl and refere you to the gmpp catalog, you'll see what he means.
3. card depends on whaat upper plenum you get, 2bb or 4bb.
air filter shouldn't have anything to do w/smog legality, just make sure you can have it suck cool air, and under hood hot air, you get more power.

Tomp told me this & I keep repeating it to the guys with 'early birds' - "The heads off a 86 or later 2.8 have larger ports so you should get better air flow."
The computer controlled carburetor was a mess, wires& vacuum lines everywhere & in a few years the whole thing starts to deteriorate and self destruct. There is a 'fuel pre-heater'
in the spacer that the Carb sits on, thats basically useless (especially in southern California). I think its a green wire. Some pictures of what you're talking about would help - if you don't have a digital camera, you could take some regular pix & and have a friend scan them for you; or some printshops will do it for a buck-or-two.

CA
Smog Legal?
How much money ya got?
Rebuild the carb/base plate, especially
Rebuild the distributor, insert all new electronics
Then slip in a used running 3.4.
I'm getting a 3.4 to slip under my 85 Blazer hood.
Distb & carb all rebuilt, engine junk.
All Edelbrock intake allows is 2 carbs, stock or 390cfm 4 bbl.
The factory intake is just as good as an edelbrock, minus different top.
85 & up MPFI F-body heads only work best, along with the MPFI cam or the 3.4 cam or the crane/wolverine.
As I said, open your V-6 wallet.

OR BE SMART & insert a 350 carb smog legal set up for less & faster performance.
You win, because it's a smog legal upgrade, easy to do for you (82-84 V-6).

Oh yeah, I remember that grid... EFE, is it? Early Fuel Evap grid? When I helped a guy swap a working '84 carb onto his '83 2.8, that grid was destroyed. He had to buy a new one for $60, since the thing was also a gasket. Would that throw an SES light if it was missing? It'd definately be a good thing to eliminate.

And no f-body 2.8/3.1/3.4 has aluminum heads.... like was said, they're not swappable without a lot of work, including changing pistons.

I like the idea of rebuilding that E2SE carb. The Haynes 82-92 book shows a picture-by-picture rebuild of it. Rebuild kits are about $40. Or, if you wanted to, you might find a junkyard E2SE carb that you could rebuild... and then swap onto your motor when you're done.

Wahahahahaaaaaaaaa..................


So your think of doing a swap Ae?


Here is what you will need......


Stock:
[list=1][*]Stock Rochester Varajet 2BBL CARB off an 82 s-10. NON-Computer Controled.[*]Edelbrock Performer 2bbl. intake[*]A vacuum advance distributor out of an 82 s-10

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Fully moded:
[list=1][*]A.R.I.?s Pro-Builder® 2.8L to 3.4L GM Stroker Kit[*]Full port and polish with 3-4 angle valve job.[*]Edelbrock 1.6 roller rockers[*]10.0:1 Compression[*]Edelbrock performer 4bbl intake[*]180° t-stat[*]Holley 390 cfm 4bbl.[*]82 s-10 vacuum advance distributor or a mallory[*]bosch platiunm +4 plugs[*]Bore out block 0.090 over or 0.030 over[*]A.R.I. Pro-Builder? Camshafts Phase 3 - Excellent mid-range throttle response from 2000 to 4800 rpm. Excellent mid to top end torque from 2500 to 4000 rpm. May require computer modifications. Heads require good 3-angle valve job. Increased compression not to exceed 10.5:1. Rejetting or increased cfm in carb required. Fair idle with slight lope. May require vacuum reserve tank.
Type
Manifold Vacuum Duration @ .050" Adv. Duration Lift Lobe Center Intake Exhaust Intake Exhaust Intake Exhaust Intake Exhaust

Phase 3 Low 214 224 280 290 .433 .466 107 117[*]A set of custom headers or polished exhaust manifolds with a high flo cat and 3" catback of your choice.[*]Est. Horsepower 300hp 320tq[/list=1]

Thats what you will need....

Wahahahahaaaaaaaa........

try doin what i got done to my 2.8 some of it wont work because mine is fi but all my mods are in my sig. i prolly got about 185 hp

hey fiream,

300hp ...dont ya think thats a little too much ..???
even after all those mods??

is it even possible

i put it on desktop dyno it made around 295.86 hp thats was with out headers

thats damn cool numbers for a v6....

TOM P my 3.1 has almunium heads my moms olds 3.1 has almunium heads. And i saw a site a while back that even said that 90-92 fbody v-6 had alumnim heads.

ummmmmm no

Yeah dude, only the Generation II 60 degree V6's got the aluminum heads. You'll find those Gen II's under the hoods of the front wheel drive cars, like the Beretta, Cavalier, etc... And if you still don't believe us, just take a look at the heads- are they rusted? Can't be aluminum. Bring a magnet to 'em- if it sticks, they're not aluminum.

I believe your mom's Olds has the aluminum heads. But yours shouldn't/doesn't, unless someone before you swapped 'em on!

David, when ya stop by shortly to help with the 68 Camaro Disc Brake stuff, I'll show ya the pics.
Did ya get your hood?

I could be wrong abnout the heads i was just going by what i was told. KED im still waitng on the hood he said it would take about a week so ill give him a week or so Oh btw KED blitzd4evr is the one who i told you about who might help with the camaro and also hes the one who bught the camaro that i was telling you about. Oh robert i have your Cell

IF you feel you are having ANY TROUBLE with Ben, you get a hold of me immediatly.
I will help you.
Want to swap in a 3.4 engine & tranny into my Blazer?
Gonna start work almost immediatly, alos.
Got engine hoist, getting floor jack ready for the work out.
I'm installing the factory Blazer carb/distb set up.
I know, boring.
Until I pass smog in Jan 2003!
Then I will install the 3.4 FI set up