robg91z

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I just got in today some founder performance lcas and a single adjustable panhard bar. I havent seen them yet cuz im at work but will post up pics of them when i get home. I havent seen any pic reviews on this so i decided to make one. I ordered it on friday and got it in today afternoon. Will post pics when i get home.!!!

robg91z

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Well I took everything out of the box and searched it completely but I think I am missing the adjustable piece of the panhard bar . The quality of the product looks really good but the only thing that is bothering me is that missing piece I will give them a call in the morning let me post the pics

robg91z

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Here is the hardware that came with it
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And here is the missing side
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lemons racer

Looks like average aftermarket quality control to me, not a big deal just frustrating.

I shouldn't beat up on the aftermarket to hard though, happens to me all the time. One good example I had, ordered a Hyd pump drive from John Deere for a log skider, opened the box & found a painted green raw casting, no machine work done at all. It's amazing stuff like this happens to me quite allot-unfortunitly.

BlackenedBird

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As bad as it is that something is missing, it is how they handle the error is what tells the most about a company.

robg91z

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I will call first thing In the morning. Hopefully they can atleast send me the adjustable piece im missing.

1ADan

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yeah, that piece normally comes in its own bag (got the same panhard in black). i was very impressed with the quality to price on these parts. hopefully they'll get things straightened out for you!

whatever84

They will take care of you. I have ordered a few things from them and there customer service is great.

Mark.

UnderCover89TBI

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That happens can't be mad at them too much for it. So far I have seen/heard good stuff with thier products.

Orr89RocZ

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I got the LCA's and LCARB's for my 99 TA. Look good and fit great. Cant beat the price. Most companies want 80-100 bucks just for bolt in brackets!! Outrageous for few peices of steel.

robg91z

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Im not mad at all the price is just crazy cheap and perfect quality. I know things like this happens all the time

UnderCover89TBI

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yup seriously. my buddy was looking at LCA's for his 4th gen. BMR or something. And I was like you can get LCA and the brackets for teh cost of just the LCA's. So that is what he went for. and they look and fit good. although they didnt come with torque specs for the bolts. no big deal.

88FormulaKiller

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im another founders supporter, got the LCARLB's, LCA's, Adj P/H bar and adj. Strut mounts. All are top notch quality and the owner is a nice, honest guy who will answer any questions you have, like, "are these restamped J&M/hotpart plates?" lol

Their not btw...

robg91z

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Ive called 4 times and still no answer must be busy

88FormulaKiller

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Keep in mind, they are offering the most bought parts for our cars at the best price on the market, they are SLAMMED.

FoundersPerf

Please PM or email us your address. I the missing parts shipped out today.

robg91z

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Pm sent

robg91z

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Well i got an email today saying that the missing piece was shipped out yesterday!!!! Very quick and responsive!!!! All i can say is an AAA+ on customer service thanks alot!!!!

robg91z

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Anybody know the torque specs on these?

robg91z

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well had my day off today from work so i started installing this set up. just need torque specs but other than that this thing is perfect and quality it awesome. i just finished with one side so i still need the other. panhard bar cant go on til i get the adjustable end in heres a pic for u all.

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robg91z

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What grease do u all use to grease up the bushings

whatever84

I just used a synthetic grease and I just tightened everything without a torque reading, not telling you to do that just saying that's what I did. I was really impressed with there parts, great quality and a great price.

Mark.

Nelz

Is that gap between the relocation bracket and the original LCA mounting point supposed to be there?

BlueZee28

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That's an interesting design on the lcarb's. I've never seen them like that before.

Nelz

Also, I'm looking at the Founder's website and comparing it to UMI and BMR. It looks like the Founders Relocation bracket is a good piece at half what everyone else is charging. But it seems to be missing those solid spacers that go in between where the bolts in the OEM LCA mounting point go to keep the OEM LCA mounting point from flexing when you tighten up the relocation bracket. Did it come with those or not? How did that affect the install? (Ie. Did your original OEM LCA location point bend in when you tightened up the bracket to the car?)

robg91z

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Well i believe so cuz i couldnt push them more back cuz then the control arm wouldnt reach. I was looking threw their website and i saw a guy comment to remember to put silicon grease?

Nelz

You know, I'm really looking at that photo again. Did you install that relocation bracket upside down? I'm sure that there's no gap and that it should be flush against the OEM relocation bracket.

FoundersPerf

The M12 grade 10.9 bolts should be torqued to 93 foot pounds. We recommend any synthetic grease.

FoundersPerf

They do come with the spacers.

robg91z

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Thank you sir. By the comment above were the relocation bracket installed correct? I mean everything is nice and tightly fitted and i had no problems with the install

Nelz

Hey Rob91Z, you mentioned that you couldn't push the bracket back anymore, but have you tried flipping the bracket upside Down?

Nelz

It looks like where you installed the top of the bracket goes toward the LCA because it bends forward.

robg91z

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If i were to install the bracket upside down the spacer where the oem control arm would go would be loose and would be moving side to side

FoundersPerf

They can only install one way.

robg91z

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Just got in the adjustable piece today and was very quick thanks founders performance and i will keep being a customer for ur great products

robguitargod1

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This is what you're looking for. don't use a petroleum based grease.

http://www.spohn.net/shop/1982-1992-...4-oz-Tube.html

89rs305-DP

I ordered the non-adjustable LCA's and panhard bar from founders. I was very pleased with the quality and fitment, especially at such a great price. Highly recommended

robg91z

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yeah im very happy with my product just havent gotten the chance to install the panhard bar yet. i ended up using mobil 1 synthetic grease

89rs305-DP

Yea i used synthetic wheel bearing grease haha, its all i had

UnderCover89TBI

iTrader: (25)

the brackets were installed correctly. i use synthetic silicone grease.

whatever84

I had already bought the lca's and panhard bar from Founders and just got the lcarb's yesterday. Great service and fast shipping!!

Mark.

P.S Just installed them, They fit great!!

soarestransam

im looking into getting these as well atleast the lca an panhard bar dont know how the relocation bracket would bolt up do they make these in adjustable or just none adjustable for when i lower my 88 a inch

whatever84

There are 2 positions on the brackets. My car is lowered about an inch and a half and they told me for straight line performance to use the lowest setting.

Mark.

s8bayer

I purchased and installed their spherical on car adjustable LCA and Panard with relocation brackets. All went together well. I did have one issue with the passenger side bracket the drill holes were a bit off. Actually, I would not be surprised at all if the car is off. I dremilled the h bit hole a bit to fit. About .020" so not a lot at all. Other than that all good. I really liked the quality. Above comment about the gap between the original mount and the bracket. That worried me a bit too. With this design a lot of the weight will be transferred to the front of the shock mount. The bracket reaches around tot he front. I do think the design would have been better to net out (no gap) on the back of that original mount area, but I bet they (and your car) would have to hold a much tighter tolerance. Anyway, absolute strength will have to go to full weld on brackets, but these are great for those of us that don't weld (at least weld well). I would still recommend. I only got to drive the car about 20 miles after installation last year, but with them in the car drove very tight. Much, much better from stock. My car has 2" lowering springs.

BlackenedBird

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Brian Croutcher owns Founders.com, J&M Products & hotparts.com. And you are telling us that they are not the same parts?

URL ownership research will tell anyone that he owns the registration of all 3.

UnderCover89TBI

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ive had UMI bolt on's on the car for at least 3 years now and have had no problems. but my power level isnt that high. 14 second car. but they do work good.

1986Z28OWNER

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I just received these for my 86, outstanding quality at a awesome price. Cant wait to install them!

Sojer

Got some non adj lca and p/h bar I also have a umi torque arm and looking at poly mounts they do look cheap the welds was not as good as umi but they weld do work I wish they made sfc for 3rd gen and torque arm they will put others out of business I would say 9 out of 10 but its better than any used part if they been on for some time I will post a vid on youtube and put up a link

articwhiteZ

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not even on ebay anymore? whats the deal? (want my ebay bucks.if im going to Buy)lol

have a set of the Metco billet lower arms now (brand new) 1.50 OD
but want to go to a 1.25 OD tube. to see if i can get a bit more tire room.

if not. ill mech the Billet arms down a bi.t to get a bit more room.
could take about a 1/2" from the sides. to free up a bit more room.(just dont wana cut on a nice looking part is all.)

TPI-Formula350-

Just installed my Founders LCAs and adjustable PHB. I'm very happy with the quality and fitment.





Founders LCAs into UMI LCRLBs