Benc1

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So I didn't know where else to post this. I have a possible lead on a Lingenfelter super ram. It appears to have all the parts and components. On its over all condition would probably give it a 7 out of 10. What would be a good price to offer the guy for it in today's market. Any suggestions or thoughts.

Twin_Turbo

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Depends, is it a stock base model or a large base/runners one?

Benc1

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Good question. I'll get back to you on that.

Benc1

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So the inside diameter of the runner is 1 3/4. And from what I understand it stands just as tall as a normal tpi unit Seller was telling me that there was a rare lower profile version of this intake that was 1" shorter in profile. I'm clueless. I'm trying to find more info on these things like lingenfelter brochures or something. Is there somewhere I should look on it for a part or model number?

Benc1

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Oh and now I got more info as for what all the guy has. It is only the top plate, plenum, and runners. No gaskets, no throttle body, no intake manifold base, and no throttle cable bracket.

Tuned Performance

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They had two different runner sizes ? I thought they were fairly thin as is. The super ram was sold in different ways, as a complete kit with harness gen 6 and gen 7 ecms or even striped down part 74196. They did have a lt1 version but I'm not sure if that was lpe only. the front opening was oval and I have read it was about a inch lower to go in the 4th gen f-body's.
This is the only lpe catalog I have with the sr in it, I have seen the sr all over the place in price from $400-1k depending on porting , polished and there is a complete chrome on in the classifieds here.

Benc1

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So would 700 dollars be a decent price?

86TA355SR

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I would start by asking in the 'alternative port' section of this forum. There are a lot of knowledgeable guys there.

I bought one of these new back in the day from LPE. If I remember correctly, I paid $7-850 for the plenum/runners/lid. Base was another $500 or so. What should you pay for it? Depends on what it is worth to you. They pop up every now and then on the sale forum. Prices vary due to port work, polishing and etc.

That is a true statement about the 1 inch lower SR-it was used on LT1 cars. It was offered on LT1 LPE engine packages, the 383 450HP LPE cars, and as an additional sale item for a few years.

I would try to stay with one for TPI.

Reid Fleming

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Lingenfelter still sells the gaskets for them. Grab an extra set from them if you buy it for future back up use.

The stock TPI throttle body hooks up to the SuperRam the same as a TPI manifold. So no issues there.

Intake manifold, you might as well pick up an aftermarket one.

You absolutely need the SuperRam throttle cable bracket. Get a hold of Lingenfelter and ask them about this (because it probably won't be in any catalogue or website). The stock bracket from a TPI will bolt on. But it won't fit. The cable will bind on the bottom of the SuperRam. This will cause the car to shift at the wrong RPM and you will never be able to adjust the cable right.

Comparing both brackets, flush at the top, but different angle at bottom.

Reid Fleming

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I will add, be sure you really want it. I got mine because I needed new head gaskets. So everything had to come out anyways. But the SuperRam is easily the hardest setup to work on. Anytime you need anything done under there (new EGR valve or new fuel injectors) you will wish you still had the TPI setup.

project89

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id buy an hsr for a fraction of the cost if u can get away without having an egr valve

Tuned Performance

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Not to bad, I paid $900 for a polished one. Seems like the pricing is all over on the sr.

aliceempire

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articwhiteZ

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SuperRam throttle cable bracket...$45 shipped
if ya cant find one..

(1/21/14)ON ITS WAY ...to a new home!

IrocZ442

After market product review for a Sr.. Yes lingenfelter made two Plenums one is for a Vette they call it the pizza box. An the other is for thirdgen. There is no two different sizes from Lpe or Accel for the runners. Some ppl Siamese them I like the Honed an Hogged base manifold Tuneperformance has mentioned.
With the base it's great torque gains for a bolt on. The bracket works with a 92 throttle cable to a speed density throttle body no problems. Ppl that don't know a lot a density throttle position is different than Mass.. Two different cables for throttle.

Get the red resin glue for your runners gaskets an you won't ever need to replace them.

Benc1

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I am still trying to talk the guy down some more. Not sure this deal is gonna happen. Plus it's one of those things I want but probably don't need. The 305 will never breathe enough for it and it will be years before I swap the motor for the 400 I want to build.

Tuned Performance

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That's a lot of air for a LB9 , The only thing I don't like about the sr is the inner 2 bolts on each side. Studding and using safety wire makes install so much easier. looks like another one hit ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=301076504678&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en

articwhiteZ

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I my self never had any probs getting to any of the bolts..
im 6'4 290 lbs and even with my Meat hook hands. could reach under and take them out. after using a small wrench to get them started.. same with putting them in...

took about 40 min longer then a standard intake install..

ill look at my old Lingenfelter catologs...the sr had a nick name of pizza box.
but i dont think thay had 2 diff tops for the small block...
they had big block..and small block. from what i recall
LPE got over $22.000 from me back in the day...
and i do remember talking with them about RPM and eng size. when i had them do a stage 4/5 upgrade to my Z28 back in 92/93
eng /cam topped out at 58 to 5900 rpm (not over 6200 rpm) was the bigest small block they had for the sr at the time..mechanical roller to boot..
only probs i ever had was intake leak about 1996...and it was from the base...(only the base to head leak) simpl fix..
and it stayed in the car.. till 2009/10.. But eng broke a rod back in 2003..yes it set for 7/8 years...working on it now..
with this new redo this time..i could have walked into any GM dealer and orderd and paid for a brand new ZL1 Camaro... and been driving it now...(but it would not be a Lingenfelter)...that would take another $20.000 today...and thats on top of the $52.000 for the ZL1.

Reid Fleming

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There were 2 different lids available. One was a flat lid. The other was a grooved lid. Other than looks, I don't think there was any difference between the two. The flat lids were made during the earlier years.

There are 3 different ways to bolt the SR in.
1) Bolt from underneath (hard to do, I don't know how articwhiteZ does it)
2) Drill the bottom of the bolts and bolt in from the top. Then slide cotter pins through the hole in the bolts below.
3) Drill the head of the bolts and then run safety wire through them. Nothing needs to be done underneath.

86TA355SR

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Not proclaiming myself as a SR expert in anyway, but you are correct on only one made for 1st gen SBC. There was only one. Others have addressed lid changes and the runners were all the same.

articwhiteZ: When you get your car together I want to see that beast!

jmd

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I thought the cable diff. was 85-88 vs. 89-92.

More detail on the red resin glue?

Tuned Performance

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The difference on the throttle cables is the end. The 85-88 clips on, the 89-92 is a wrap around style. The throttle bracket itself is the same between the years.

86TA355SR

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IF you put the bolts in from the top of the plenum to the runners, I recommend some masking tape to cover the intake runner holes...if you drop one of the bolts into an intake runner, you won't be happy with yourself. Especially if you are 'luck' enough for an intake valve to be open...Ask me how I know.

You'll teach everyone within ear shout new words...

Tuned Performance

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Tape is a great idea ! much better than what my stoner friend Ron did. he stuffed the blue paper towels in the runners and forgot about them. He then had to pull his runners back off and pull out the spark plugs to try to get the remainder on the pieces out. I guess it went something like this vroom clacka clacka, wth is that burnt paper floating in the air. Lmao

project89

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lol still better then what happend to my uncle at the racetrack , he did his burnout in the alky dragster and sucked up a rag into the injector hat that was blowing around , it wedged the throttle open till the blower finally ingested the rag and he got the engine shut down

funny thing is the rag actually passed threw the engine and came out the header , then again a tennis ball would pass threw the ports in those heads lmao

Tuned Performance

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Lol, reminds me of how they test turbine engines.

articwhiteZ

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shooting for this spring.. doing the new man cave now
picking up stuff to cover wall space..6 or 7 diff banners
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mickey-Thompson-Racing-Banner-Vinyl-New-8-x-3-New/221330661101?rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D261%26meid%3D4333354806256724190%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D1088%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D5%26sd%3D191029259334%26

forgot about the Lids..they did make 2 types one billet.one cast (finned looking)..and only one upper box..

project89

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video dont work but im assuming its the one were they throw objects into the running turbine

Tuned Performance

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Click on were it says you tube, I think you will get a kick out of the second one